How Calvinism Fails

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Dr. Leighton Flowers shows numerous clips demonstrating how Calvinists fail when evangelizing and practicing apologetics with the lost.

TRIGGER WARNING! Watching these clips will cause some of you great discomfort and stress. Prepare yourself to be very frustrated.

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Calvinism wrecked my world, I am not the same person I was, I don't witness and have the love for the lost like I use to, I constantly agonize over if I am of the elect, I can't pray because I don't know if I am one God loves and I can't read the bible without anxiety, fear and condemnation. I am so glad I heard your testimony and your exhortation to get back to the word and let the Holy Spirit teach me.

kevinsparkman
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So do Calvinists take up "Free Will Offerings" or do they use "Pre-Ordained Offerings" instead? 🤣🤣🤣

djhu
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Instant classic. Instant favorite. God bless Leighton Flowers. Would to God this video could be played to every Calvinist Laymen across the world this weekend. Sad that, at the time I'm watching this, only 7600 people are seeing it. Please consider supporting this ministry!

rtgray
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I didn't think I could possibly have had a lower opinion of James White than I did before watching this video. I was wrong! His conversation with that young Mormon man was physically, mentally and spiritually more agonizing than this bout of flu that's been kicking my behind the last several days.

DamonNomad
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This has been truly horrible....oh dear Lord, please help us to undo this damage 💔

ivylagrone
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This is truly heartbreaking. Anyone else notice how Calvinists in this video never mention faith? They talk about grace and what God does for us and how he has to change your heart but they continually neglect faith. Why? Because grace, because what God does for us comes through faith! A non-meritorious belief, not a work! It’s so sad seeing people like Rogan or Shapiro who have huge audiences listen to people who can’t even and wont even attempt to “square the circle”. They toss it aside just like they do with faith…

darbyochill
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I’ve had Calvinism in the back of my mind for a while, even though I was never one. I can see truly it is unpalatable.

andtechie
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Calvinism is embarrassingly easy to refute from Genesis to Revelation beginning with their foundation: 1) their definition of sovereign and 2) Miticulous Determinism. When these 2 are refuted by God's breathed words, the other 7 points, which includes Tulips 5 Points, are also refuted, have no place to root.

Rightlydividing-wxxb
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I actually feel like I could throw up hearing Jeff durbin say that the holocaust was justice on the Jews… this is really sickening. Thank you for making this video and exposing the scary craziness that comes with Calvinism

itsmejeremy
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The week before the Covid shutdown of America I attended a debate in Utah between Kwaku El and a Christian. The place was packed and I was looking forward to seeing this Christian systematically deconstruct the Mormon religion. My hopes were soon dashed. Kwaku quickly made the debate about Mormonism vs Calvinism. The Calvinist should have pointed out that there are other views of Christianity to consider and to keep the focus of the debate in mind -- it was not supposed to be a debate about Calvinism. Instead, he took the bate and lost the debate.

When the curtains are pulled back and Calvinism is exposed for what it really is, it is horrifying. That's exactly what Kwaku did and the false god of Mormonism looked way better than the false god of Calvinism.

I was the first one to the mic for the Q&A session. I quickly pointed out how Molinism can answer the problems Kwaku was offering. When the debate was over I had a really nice talk with him and his colleagues.

FreethinkingMinistries
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These people actually set themselves up as lords over the Gospel, as if it belongs to them. Sick! All I can think of is the Scripture that says” you travel to the ends of the earth to make a convert, and make them twice a son of hell as you are”, and “ you keep people from entering and you yourselves do not enter” . Very

johndisalvo
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You were right. This video triggered me greatly! Felt very grieved that these Calvinists - Jeff Durbin and James White painfully distorted GOD’s Glorious character! It was very, very sad to watch!

drose
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I find it strange that James White and Jeff have "Babies are murdered here" on the wall (talking about their stance on abortion) but at the same time believe that God eternally decreed abortion to happen for his "glory".

eiontactics
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Man.. Honestly, this video has settled the resolve in me to contribute to this matter. More people need to hear that there is another way and we need more people advocating for something like provisionism.

odec
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I find it sad that rather than reading the entire flow of scripture, Calvinist theology lifts chapters and verses and ignores the context of scripture as a whole word of God.

chelseal
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Thanks for the trigger warning, Leighton! I was almost jumping out of my skin! All Calvinists repeat the exact same proof texts!

janetdavis
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I have done so much flip flopping on this topic. When I first heard about Calvinism from John Macarthur my gut reaction was to reject it but I listened to the arguments made by him and others as well as arguments from those who disagree, such as Dr. Flowers and others. My soul desire is to follow Christ as biblically as I can and be more like Him. Trying to understand both sides of this argument has been fatiguing. I love Christ and I praise Him for all he has done in my life, I just want to know Him and understand His word. In the last few weeks God has pointed me back to what is really important. Friends, just focus on Christ. There are so many voices out there and it is easy to become confused and overwhelmed. Focus on knowing Christ and who He says He is. Study His word, treasure it in your heart and develop a deeper love for Him. He will not hide Himself from you. You can sort through these doctrines of course but do not let it take you to a place of obsession. Do not leave your first love behind, He is all we have.

samrichardson
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You are right to give a trigger warning. Infuriating!

joshcampbell
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So heartbreaking to hear those who can't know the love of God because they have been evangelized by Calvinism. I just want to reach out to them and extend the true Gospel. James White & Jeff Durbin are so infuriating! They are leading people to the gates of heaven and practically barring entrance. Whose side are they on? You can't be saved if you're not elect, so better you don't read about it - what?!?! And that debate with the Mormon gentleman.... I've watched the whole thing, and if I were in that room, I'd be defending him. Not mormonism - total cult - but their treatment of him. These examples of hyper-calvinism convince me that it's the doctrines of satan. Get people one degree off their course, and they'll never make it to their destination.

PS "... a lot of young people have joined that 'movement' since 2008." That's exactly what Calvinism is - a movement, not the Church.

havasmama
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I share the pain & sadness expressed by so many of the commenters.
I encourage Leighton to continue in these efforts as I am one of the opinion that this kind of Calvinism is not only incorrect, but genuinely dangerous.

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