Filioque, and Why Orthodox Christianity Rejects It

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[trevorbinning]

This issue was the final push that I needed to convert from Roman Catholicism; St. Photios’ “Mystagogy on the Holy Spirit” was instrumental in my conversion. I was baptized and named Photios this past Lazarus Saturday. Venerable Father St. Photios, pray to God for us!

[lacastanha]

New Orthodox here from Brasil! Love yall my sisters and Brothers!

[TrentonErker]

It doesn’t seem right to call believers in the filioque stupid. Smarter men than us have debated this for centuries.
Also, it’s unhelpful. The backfire effect (no matter how much evidence toward a different idea, the person doubles down on their original belief) kicks in when people are insulted or challenged like that.

Are you trying to affect change, or make yourself feel good?

One is loving, the other is ego.

[willtheperson]

Short yet Informative and concise! Thanks for clarifying this. God bless ☦️

[anaarkadievna]

Dr Beau Branson is the first who for me explained very clear the Monarchy of the Father - and then I understood the Filioque!

[TJackson]

Double hypostatic procession means there are two fathers. Simple as

[davidmckelvey]

I am Protestant but I like looking into what Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox believe. Great video.

[khealer]

Who is this David? I only know David therealMedWhite.

[nektariosg]

Well done. This, coupled with your video on the Eighth Ecumenical Council, is a solid one-two combo against the filioque heresy.

[hhtecMusicianTheNotecianHero]

REALLY good and helpful video! God bless you David!

[ldr]

Here because I need to get one of the most basic premises of uniquely orthodox theology under my belt! I realised I’ve been focusing more on the political aspect of the controversy. We can always learn more about our faith 🙏🏻

[CybermanKing]

This was a good video until you became very uncharitable at about 9:50.
If I speak in human and angelic tongues but do not have love, I am a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal.
-1 Cor. 13:1

[Borzoi]

Yes, I agree. But the Filioque should also be rejected because it was never accepted by any ecumenical council. Rome had no authority whatsoever to muscle their way into Byzantium and compel Orthodox Christians to adopt this notion.

[MattJackson]

Scary thought: am I correct in inferring that to confess the filioque, is to confess that the Holy Spirit is the byproduct of the mutual willing of the Father and Son to love? If the Holy Spirit is born of this the Divine energies, and not the Divine Essence, then the Holy Spirit is of a different essence than the Father and Son. If there is only one God’s Divine Essence, then the Holy Spirit cannot be God because He does not share in that Essence.

To confess that the Holy Spirit is not God, is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit 😬😬😬

Is this correct? These are heavy HEAVY implications and I don’t want to hold to this if it is not absolutely true.

[eldermillennial]

I know you’ve said that you’re sick of the “Sacred Heart” issue, and do not want to debate it further, but what about a related ancillary problem?
Namely Antioch’s investigative conclusion that the EARLIEST version of the practice (begun around the time of the Schism) is merely Troubadour Romance language adapted into prayer and THAT one is compatible with Western Rite Orthodox practice?
I’m having trouble finding English versions of the accounts of the development of the Western Rite Antioch Vicariate rules which should include a record of their investigation into that practice. Could you find out anything about that investigation and express your opinion about that SPECIFIC reasoning? It seems to be quite a different side of the debate than the usual.

[williamavitt]

Would you agree with this statement?
"The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father *through* the Son"

[artdanks]

@David Erhan. Very helpful video, with sound and logical Theology. However, that being said, I was quite bothered at 9:51 when you addressed Roman Catholics as being ignorant and stupid! You said, "I will show to you that you are only showing your ignorance and stupidity"! This is NOT a healthy way to communicate with others, when you are trying to express Truth! To call someone stupid and ignorant will only alienate and offend them, which could easily cause them to shut down and not even listen to anything else you have to say. This is why it is sooo important to speak the truth, in love! (Eph 4:15). Unfortunately, calling people stupid because their understanding differs from ours, takes the love out of it which can easily then cause them to reject the Truth that is being shared. David, I encourage you dear brother to consider editing out that phrase from your video, and to be more careful in future videos to not use such offensive phrases that could turn away potential seekers of truth. ☦️

[GC-fbpc]

Orthodox view is in error. Jesus is tru God and true human. So why would the Holy Spirt not proceed from the father and the son? This was already addressed in the Council of Florence.

[silveriorebelo]

yeah, of course, what matters is not history about the filioque but the theology supposedly entailed by it because history denies the claims of orthodoxy, while we can always invent what the filioque 'means' - according to the ortho propagandists, it means that the Trinity is reduced to a dyad, that Christ is conceived in a Arian manner, that the divine essence is seen as the origin of the Spirit, not the Father, etc etc etc...

[alanshaji]

You are literally reading my mind! I searched up your account to see if you had videos on the Filioque just a couple hours ago and here we are. God Bless, my brother in Christ!