Why Eastern Orthodox REJECT The Filioque ❌

[ReignSherrington-slbz]

Please keep producing videos. Absolutely superb content. Truly great!

[DRWH]

Except that when the apostles asked Jesus to stay with them, Jesus said He had to ascend so He could send the Holy Sprit. Many theologians have said the Holy Sprit is the Love between the Father and the Son, so if the Father loves the Son and the Son loves the Father, it must proceed from the Father and the Son, without the “secondary” or “lesser” role implied.
Revelation 22:1 “Then the angel showed me the river of life-giving water, sparkling like crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb”
Also, the wording was actually added in the 500’s to combat the Arian heresy. Although it had been in use since then, the eastern churches did not object until the 1000’s when there were tensions between the eastern and western churches and the pope added it formally.
EDIT:
I noticed from the replies that there is a misunderstanding. It seems everyone thinks I am saying that the Orthodox Church has an incorrect understanding of the Trinity. That’s not what I am saying at all. I think the Catholic and Orthodox Churches have the same understanding on the Trinity. I just think that the Orthodox misunderstand the Filioque. As Maximus the Confessor wrote:
"They have produced the unanimous evidence of the Latin Fathers, and also of Cyril of Alexandria, from the study he made of the gospel of St John. On the basis of these texts, they have shown that they have not made the Son the cause of the Spirit – they know in fact that the Father is the only cause of the Son and the Spirit, the one by begetting and the other by procession –but that they have manifested the procession through him and have thus shown the unity and identity of the essence. They have therefore been accused of precisely those things of which it would be wrong to accuse them"

[levibarros]

"If I do not go, the holy Spirit cannot come. But if I go, I will send the holy Spirit." - Jesus Christ

[donzioldbuddy]

Tertullian, Saint Hilary, Ambrose and Augustine all teaching the filioque 600-800 years before the Schism between East and west in 1054 AD

[neilosbeverly]

Very well said father. I've never heard it explained so clear

[MikePasqqsaPekiM]

Popes have recited the creed the Orthodox way, without scandal. The Filoque is not a change, it is a clarification to ensure Christ’s Divinity is recognized.
If we change the creed back, it won’t change anything about my understanding of the Blessed Trinity.

[stylist]

Thank you for the explanation, there is so much we need better understanding of.🙏🥰❤️

[marystone]

I pray that one day this unfortunate misunderstanding can be fully resolved, so that we may be one church again, not two halves of the same body as we are now. The 'filioque' doesn't put the Son above the Spirit, nor does it disturb the balance. East and West have the same understanding of the Holy Trinity, and it's sad that misunderstandings related to language make it difficult for some of us to see that. May the Lord bless you, father, and may the Holy Theotokos pray for all of us to see the truth of her Son's church that we may be reunited once again.

[jm]

This among other reasons will be why I am Eastern Orthodox for life.☦️☦️☦️

[swaangreen]

The Holy Spirit is characterized by the love between the Father and the Son that dwells within us.

[neochris]

Just remember, whichever interpretation is more right is a topic less important than loving our neighbor and brothers. Catholics and Orthodox have way more similarities than differences and focusing on the differences might actually take us far from God, not closer.

[markscott]

Despite growing up in my own Plato's Cave of Roman Catholic Christianity, I was fortunate that it was of the Irish variety and always wondered about the peculiarity of the trinity as taught - knowing that the bare eminence and power and knowledge of God eclipses any ability to quantify or describe in words.

Thank you so much.

[younis]

St. Cyril of Alexandria a great Eastern bishop of the Roman Catholic Church states:

Since the Holy Spirit when He is in us effects our being conformed to God, and He actually proceeds from Father and Son, it is abundantly clear that he is of the divine essence, in it of essence and proceeding from it.

[benjaminplackemeier]

Id one day like to see both churches united again, but thats going to be one big undertaking with so much time that has passed.

[gussalazar]

I'm not an expert on this subject, but knowing human nature, chances are that's an excuse to cover up for some political difference or a misinterpreted slight.

[junicornplays]

The argument around the filioque has largely been resolved, the issue is Papal Supremacy.

[gamertheories]

This is the kinda thing you gotta listen to a couple of times to get very interesting though

[vdamntam]

Thank you for this explanation, Father 😊

[JoschuaSchmidt]

To me, that seems like a really bad argument against the filioque. I´ve heard many better ones. But I might´ve understood it wrong.
According to that logic, couldn´t you also say that, since both the Son and the Spirit love the Father, they have something that the Father doesn´t have, therefore they are put apart from him?

[dckog]

I would take a look at St. Thomas Aquinas’ Summa Theologiae, First part, Question 36, Articles 1-4

If you want the Catholic point of view of the Holy Spirit and how he relates to to the Father and the Son