DEBATE | Does Regeneration Precede Faith? || TurretinFan vs. Kevin's Biblical Discussions

This is a formal debate between TurretinFan and Kevin (Kevin's Biblical Discussions) on the topic of regeneration.

Debate question - Does Regeneration Precede Faith?

Affirmative - TurretinFan
Negative - Kevin (Kevin's Biblical Discussions)

Moderator - Donny Budinsky

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[mrslisaloves]

I have so much respect and appreciation for TurretinFan.

[dokidokibibleclub]

Nice work out there in the debate dojo, gents! Edifying and entertaining, thank you. And thanks Donny

[jerehaw]

The gospel is the power of God and it's the truth and the truth sets us free.

[creator.season]

Good debate. These debates highlight how we can be lost on one topic of salvation and found on another. For this discussion, it would seem as if turretinfan believes that men are robots with no control of their own beliefs.
Men are unable to walk a straight line on their own but if they choose they can walk in Jesus because after the flood God placed the law in the hearts of all men. Free will is the reason most do not follow that law because what good is the love of an obedient robot? Real men would rather marry women who can leave, cheat, and take half of everything - before they marry a robot woman who couldn’t do any of that.

[SugoiEnglish]

Why do some believe and not others? Exactly!

[jerehaw]

Man loves darkness rather than light until he learns of the way of mercy provide by Jesus Christ.

[jerehaw]

The God of this world has blinded the minds of those that don't believe. It is satan doing the blinding not God himself

[ReformedlyGuy]

This was a pwning of Kevin’s position…

Imagine conflating adoption, justification, salvation and regeneration in your opening comments???

[robertzamzow]

Watching the rest of the debate. Another question would be...

If everybody is just inclined to sin and not guilty, why would they need a savior? What would Christ be saving them from? You would eventually have to say that there are people alive who dont need Christ (babies in the womb, newborns, people who havent sinned since it would have to be possible to not sin, etc.).

[pinoychristianpilgrim]

If the gospel is the power of God for salvation, why not all has equal opportunity to hear the gospel?

[JustinWilson-ccfc]

Non Calvinist make God an actual savior by man's will. They are saying they are the Potter of God making Him what He wants to be.

[JustinWilson-ccfc]

Parable are for God's chosen they will be taught by God.

[pinoychristianpilgrim]

The image of God directly relates to authority given to man on God's creation and also having the same knowledge of good and evil as defined by God. Afterwards, man no longer adhere to the knowledge of good and eveil as defined by God. (Genesis 1and2)

[jerehaw]

The salvation of a person involves more than just God and the person. Other believers are also associated with the person by connection or by prayer. A witness in also involved in a person getting saved. People parish for lack of knowledge as well. If there are no preachers or no evangelism a person has a less chance of hearing the word and having faith

[JustinWilson-ccfc]

God gives the command to repent to all . That command is use to separate the sheep from the goats.

[yoshkebenstadapandora]

It is sad to me that we are still debating this absurd proposition when there are so much more pressing issues to deal with.

[robertzamzow]

If God is working in everyone, is He unable to save some?

[jerehaw]

The light shined out of darkness for the apostles and so they could convey that light in the cannon of scripture. This is specific to the appostles.was written.

[JustinWilson-ccfc]

Was the apostle Paul humble when God saved him?

[matthewsouthwell]

1:22:00 timestamp
[Misquotation of John 3:8]

For reference:
John 3:5-8
5Jesus answered,  “Most assuredly, I say to you,  unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”