You Can't LOGIC Your Way Out of Depression

In this video, Dr. K explores why logic is not effective in treating depression and suggests that flawed assumptions and emotional processing are the underlying issues that need to be addressed instead.

Many individuals with depression, including those with subclinical depression, may try to analyze their situation logically to pull themselves out of it, but they often find themselves unable to do so. Moreover, some people with depression may be highly logical and reach the conclusion that there is no reason to live. Dr. K explains that this is because the amygdala becomes hyper-reactive in people with depression, causing them to become hypersensitive to negativity and amplify negative information.

To address depression, Dr. K recommends developing emotional awareness through therapy, meditation, and journaling. These practices can help individuals process emotions and change flawed assumptions, which can ultimately help them tackle hopelessness and use logic to find lasting solutions. Dr. K emphasizes the importance of recognizing the limitations of logic in dealing with depression and the need to address the emotional aspects of the problem to find effective solutions.

▼ Timestamps ▼
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00:00 - Introduction
03:49 - IQ and depression
06:41 - What is depression?
07:57 - Amygdalar Hyper-reactivity
09:44 - Emotions and analysis
13:18 - IQ and EQ
17:04 - Does this mean I'm screwed?
23:00 - Conclusion

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[Wingedmagician]

I remember telling my counselor. “I’m not suicidal. But suicide just makes sense. You know what I mean? It’s the only thing that makes sense.”

[maclainherbers]

I’ve found that it’s easier to logic your way into depression than out of it

[Mysteroo]

“Logically correct, but operating on the wrong assumptions”

That is HUGE

[timkoandi]

I actually have a relative who struggles with this logic. She always says her life won't get better so there's no reason to go to a therapist. I tried to reason with her for years. Now after watching this video I told her what you said and she finally agreed to seek help. Thank you so much.

[LairAstro]

It's hard not to be depressed in the modern era. Our "purpose" has changed so fast due to technology and social constructs of this era that we feel unfulfilled or empty.

[ZyrexShorts]

the problem with depression its that its not an emotion like sadness, its a state of mind.

[DreamerFromTheDepths]

Depression: "So life is pointless."
Me: "Yes."
Depression: "You believe you're so worthless to other people that you're actually detrimental to other people."
Me: "Yes."
Depression: "You don't believe you have value even to yourself."
Me: "Yes."

Depression: "So why don't you-"
Me: "No."
Depression: "But that doesn't make any sense!"
Me: "Yes."

[wilsonlv]

In my 5th year of depression, someday I suddently noticed that the trickiest thing about depression, is that it makes you believe you don't want to get better, as if you're depressed because it's the way things should be. All the things it tells you in your head sounds so true that you even begin to doubt that the life before was just a delusion, a fake image, because you're unable to see "the truth". It controls you not by some irrational thoughts, but by the fear of being irrational. The harder you try to "make sense", the deeper it controls you.

[diamondmemer]

There's two types of depression: logic says I shouldn't be depressed but I am, and logic says I have no reason to not be depressed, the second one is what gets me

[Gigaflare]

The autoimmune analogy for depression is a fantastic one. It's a "the bigger they are, the harder they fall" situation.

[richielassen]

"You are not your thoughts" is the key to breaking that loop/cycle

[JohnnyWishbone]

"The madman has not lost his reason. He has lost everything **but** his reason." -- G. K. Chesterton

This was written in the early 20th century, so the terminology is clearly antiquated, but it has really helped me understand, contextualize, and cope with my own mental illness.

[savagecraft]

I've struggled with "being too smart for myself, " or rather, forcing myself to get out of my own head and stop doing things "logically." I've grown to use logic to make myself feel safe in times where my emotions are on high alert, but sometimes it is more harmful than helpful.

[johntrains]

2:31 this is so on point. I was a "gifted child" and didn't develop emotionally very well and in my adulthood I look around like, "why do these people have all these things like friends and family and relationships and I don't?"

[thejokerking]

I have an IQ of 139. 140 would consider you to be a genius and is pretty rare. Ever since I had depresssion I have always thought of trying to just “logic” itself out as exactly as how you stated. However, it never works. I’ve worked out, eat well, and have good experiences and still feel bland or numb. This is a video I needed to re-route how I think of my depression so thank you so much.

[p.]

Man, the part near the end when he addresses feeding the cycle of depression by being unable to "fix" it and the guilt of failing constantly really got to me.
Good video, it's good to have more awareness.

[souio]

So true. You should take steps to fix things, but I found that just going through day to day blindly believing "everything's gonna work out" without thinking how it will logically happen has helped me much more than trying to think of detailed steps of getting me out of many situations. Usually everything worked out in ways I never expected or never factored in.

[cmndo]

This takes "ignorance is a bliss" to a whole new level

[PandaJungle]

If you have relied on logic your whole life it's nothing but surprising how much of therapy for depression is actually focused on recognizing your emotions as if that has been an option all along

[Justin--zeqq]

Man this is so valuable for people with depression. It took me years to figure this exact thing out on my own. Also this is tougher for high IQ ADHD people, because they are at such a IQ / EQ imbalance. High IQ and ADHD is basically a recipe for depression.