Soteriology101's Problematic Definition of Predestination

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[jacobjones]

Tares are not converted to Wheat.
Goats are not converted to Sheep.
His Sheep will hear His voice.

[guitaoist]

“I have declared the end from the beginning”. Sounds like God did plan everything beforehand... because that’s what he said he did

[SSJR]

I met Dr. White in Arkansas when he visited! He preached on Hebrews 6. One of the greatest experiences of my 24 years so far! Thanks Dr. White.

[matthewdyer]

I watched the whole Romans 9 debate. What struck me is the dishonesty Flowers exhibited by agreeing to debate the exegesis of Romans 9, and then never exegeting Romans 9. It's a common tactic with people who know their position is a losing one, but are unwilling to budge; not becoming of a Christ follower.

[AaronShafovaloff]

Dr. White SHINES in responses like this. Thankful for your work, brother.

[bisdakpinoy]

I’m a Filipino and i love brother James White

[Mariano-hcyk]

Thank you Dr White. Your ministry has been a big blessing to the church. Sola gracia!

[wretch]

Leighton: unregenerate man is able to accept the truth? 🤔
Leighton: "He becomes hardened to the truth and EVENTUALLY gets cut off" so he wasn't cut off to start with? Are all men in good standing with God until they reject the gospel? Sounds very upside down to me. 🤔

[VZNico]

Thanks for this. May the doctrines of grace and the truth of gospel be preached everywhere

[angj]

Thanks bro!

Leighton’s analogesis seems correct, until the scripture was presented.

[tikikildagnachew]

How can he(flower) even lived as Calvinist for 9 years with this kind of definition on pre-destination.

[Lee-xnby]

I don't understand why Satan would try and deceive and blind those who are already deceived and blind?

[stephanievann]

How does the phrase "ability to respond to the gospel" equate to "we can save, set free and regenerate ourselves"? 🤔

[jchan]

Flowers won't concede that fatalism is impersonal. Fatalism is deterministic but without purpose as to what happens in creation. Where as theistic determinism is just the opposite. Namely God has a purpose in what He has eternally decreed. Why can't Flowers make distinctions? Because he is simply unfair and dishonest.

[tamcam]

No dead man has ever brought himself back to life. We were dead in our trespasses and sins. God had to impart life to us before we could respond. The bible states that God draws us and no one can come to Christ without his drawing us. The Shepard went in search of the lost sheep. No sinner seeks God just like no criminal seeks a policeman.

[jaggedlines]

Thankyou James for giving a clear biblical understanding of Predestination. The semi-pelagians amongst us continue to distort the biblical understanding with their own personal interpretation. They cannot accept that God determines whatever comes to pass. They want to contribute something towards salvation through so-called free will. When it came to my conversion way back in 1974, I knew that Christ chose me. I did not choose Christ. I did NOT make a decision for Christ. My conversion was not a man-centered decision. The Holy Spirit revealed the TRUTH to me that IS CHRIST. I had nothing to contribute towards my salvation. I believe that to be heresy. To God be the Glory that He has predestined us In-Christ. Salvation is wholly the will of God. We cannot contribute anything toward it, despite what the semi-pelagians preach.

[billyr]

Even if it said he predestined adoption children do not adopt themselves. So flowers is double wrong no matter how you slice it.

[renderingdues]

I believe Leighton is sincere. Sincerely deceived.

[winburna]

Leighton seems to read Acts 4, Romans 8, and Ephesians 1 with his eyes closed.

[josephalvinalmedatv]

Flowers is just spewing out freewill philosophy