Discussing Romans 9 | Leighton Flowers | Soteriology 101

The Biblical Rogues Gallery, hosted by TRINITY RADIO, is walking through Romans and in this episode Dr. Leighton Flowers joins the discussion to tackle Romans 9, specifically the section that seems to suggest God may HATE the unborn baby named Esau. Does He really?!?



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[daisyesparza]

Studying this text in April is what caused the U petal of TULIP fall off for me. After that, the rest of the petals started falling.

[byronbarker]

Oh yay! I'm the first to comment 😀, but I haven't watched enough to make one 😊. Still I'm fairly confident that this will be an informative discussion 👍

[mrupholsteryman]

When I was younger ....I used to think of course the clay can't ask the Potter why did you make me this way.... it's clay. It isn't alive. But I have since matured a little bit. 😊

[SheilaSmith-zg]

It's a mistake to reach a conclusion BEFORE reading the entire book and/or the entire essay.
The possibility of error is high when a belief is formed from the book or film "reviewers, " rather the actual document itself.
Read.

[josuediaz]

I love Pritchett and consider him a YouTube friend! 😎 Hoping to attend trinity seminary soon, Lord willing. 🙏🏽

[granthollandvideos]

I Remener the debate with James White and Leighton. I thought it was very amazing that he ultimately agreed with Leighton but speaking to “ Apostolic authority of Paul “ but Paul does not mention this, . Ita James’s interpretation of what he thinks is Paul’s idea, such a long stretch worth looking into

[SheilaSmith-zg]

Humans complicate the simple and simplify the complex.
Details always matter, but all details are not necessarily significant.

[KISStheSON...]

"Has the word of God failed?"

No.
Man fails themself by rejecting the wisdom of God that makes a man wise unto salvation from death.

Proverbs 8:36
“But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.”

[SamHarless-whed]

Calvinism is not Christian. It is a shame that the system has so much power to persuade. It fooled me and ruined my walk. Now I’m out of it but have residual effects that cause doubt towards God. It’s a very dangerous false teaching!

[SheilaSmith-zg]

Perfect example of error is the interpretation by calvinists of Rom 3: 10-18.
Paul is quoting O.T Palms, not making a claim of condemnation of all humans. The quote is a warning to his audience, not a declaration of Total Depravity. The quotes are about a specific people, at a specific time, on a specific issue: The who reject the existence of God.
A little bit of information is a dangerous thing.

[Mike-qtjp]

While I absolutely believe God causes/ordains/determines some things. I don’t believe He causes everything to happen. In Jeremiah 19:5 God says, "People built high places to sacrifice their children (in fire) to foreign gods, and He (God) says, "I did NOT COMMAND this, nor did it enter my mind."

Also, Joshua 24:15 has Joshua saying, "CHOOSE you this day whom you will serve."

What does the Calvinist say sin is? The Biblical definition of sin is missing the mark. Not doing God's will. How can there be sin if God is CAUSING everything to happen? What is sin if EVERYTHING that happens, ONLY happens because GOD CAUSES it to happen? Also, how can there be obedience if EVERTHING ONLY happens because AGAIN God causes all to happen, even "obedience" to God's commands?

[Dakzstars]

I have a question, when paul says who can resist his will?, what does that actually mean if men actually have free will, seems like peope can actually resist his will

[JustinMay]

We’re covering this in our Theo3 class and finding out my seminary is Calvinist….

[brotherderek]

I appreciate the conversation, but in reality, if you've experienced the love of Christ, then you know Calvinism is not true. The scriptures support it as well. Whatever.

[cthulhutoad]

Derrick wouldn't need his stove on if he wore a proper jumper

[evelynerazohernandez]

How dare that guy with the blue hat say that Peter didn’t get anything right.. these men were inspired by God to give the word.🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[delivefreenana]

Does Nick come across as arrogant to anyone?

[oldtimepreaching]

I believe the strongest argument against your view was made by Martin Luther in his book The Bondage of the Will, written over 500 years ago. It remains one of the most powerful refutations of your position. God has blessed this work, and the fact that it has stood the test of time for centuries, while your view may soon be forgotten, must be difficult to accept. "The name of the righteous is used in blessings, but the name of the wicked will rot" (Proverbs 10:7) I'm not saying you are wicked.

[Echarterisc]

I noticed that it seems you agree with the Calvinist that Election and predestination for salvation nullify the free will of man, This I have to say that Election and predestination never nullify the free will of man. Man has always free will even before or after the fall of Adam..
God chose and predestined the elect to be saved because God knows that the elect will always believe because they are the children of God.. God did not regenerate the elect to believe because the elect will always believe God and the gospel because the elect are born believers...

[ErikMiller-cocr]

Leighton, what is the difference between your theology and open theism? Also, your ridiculous obsession with trying to dismantle a soteriological position that has been preached by giants of the faith throughout history does nothing but sow disunity and confusion in the minds of many young disciples. Also, to anyone unfamiliar with the concepts of ‘Calvinism’ please don’t get your definitions from Leighton… seriously. Asking Leighton to rightly represent reformed soteriology is like asking Hilary Clinton to rightly articulate the positions of the Republican Party. ✌🏼