Calvinists are Stumped by Colossians 2:12

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Dr. James White was recently interviewed by a fellow Calvinist, Joel Webbon, and they discussed a debate with Dr. Leighton Flowers addressing the crux of the disagreement between Calvinists and all other Christians: DOES REGENERATION PRECEDE FAITH? Specifically, Joel asked about a question that seems to have stumped him regarding Colossians 2:12: "... you were also raised up with Him through faith..."

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When I was convicted by the Holy Spirit! I asked God to forgive me, and to come in me, and cleanse me with his blood, and restore me to the joy of his salvation, and he did! And I receive Christ and joy! Then all Hell broke loose! I was attacked on all sides, the Bible came to life! I’m still under attack! I keep asking for grace all the time. I’d thought I’d share a little of my testimony with you Leighton, thank and keep up the the work the lord has you on

edwardfriedrich
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James sounded a bit like a politician dodging a direct question.

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without faith it’s impossible to please God, whoever comes to him must believe that He is, and that he is a rewarder of those that diligently seek him.

LetTheTruthBeTold
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May the Lord bless you brother Leighton Flowers. Praying for you. We need more people like you. Soli Deo Gloria.

mariussentiveanu
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arguing with a calvinist is like trying to nail jello to a wall

arkrainflood
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Watching White tackle Colossians 2:12 was as painful as Joe Biden's CNN townhall.

BtZealot
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I have a tough time listening to James White. You're more gracious than I.

philosophyze
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Faith preceding regeneration is one of the absolute most simple and clearest teachings of the whole Bible.

bobbyadkins
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Do you notice how Calvinists find their identity in a Calvinist doctrine instead of their identity in Christ. 🙏

eswn
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“You’re not suppose to exegete the text during cross examination, you ask a question!” Had me rolling 😂 great job Dr. Flowers

chrissavedbygrace
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My son got me listening to you a while back, and all I can say is, , , Thank you! I could NEVER think that I was so special to be Picked to go to heaven, I know the Word says God is Not a respecter of persons, and Jesus said, For God so loved the WORLD, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVES in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. The Only way we know Jesus, is thru FAITH! Your doing an awesome job! Again, Thank You!

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In whom ye also trusted, AFTER that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also AFTER that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise

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By whom also we have ACCESS BY FAITH into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

LetTheTruthBeTold
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Even if Jesus Christ shows Calvinist that this is wrong, they’d quote John Calvin to Jesus. 😂

dorianjohnson
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23:00 I knew that quoting of Greek from JW had to come! 😂 When he can’t answer a question he starts throwing down a few words in Greek to impress you and make you think “wow he makes no sense but he can read Greek so he must know what he’s talking about”. 😂

kevinkleinhenz
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Thank you Dr. Leighton, your knowledge of the Bible is amazing. Keep making videos like this. Im learning a lot from you.

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If there's anything I learn from these debates, it's that people are set in their beliefs, with no hope of being able to change. Because people will resort to logical fallacy instead of admitting defeat. Even the guy who admitted being stumped scrambled to find a reason to hold on what he was wrong about.

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Dr. Flowers, keep holding their feet to the fire of God's truth, the Bible. Blessings...

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Thanks for your ministry. Praying for many to see the error in

jillianmathews
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Augustine never completely abandoned Manecean beliefs about the nature of God.
In his late life he brought Manecean belief into Christianity. Augustine thought of salvation through an agnostic lens. This led to searching scripture to support his beliefs about the nature of God and man. This led to a tangle of contradictory and illogical beliefs that Calvin carried forward from Augustine.

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