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[MichaelHernandez-lcwb]

The more I study Calvinism, the more I reject it.

[matthewbrown]

Wow. I had no clue who was behind that website. Examining Calvinism was SO essential in helping me get out of that cult. Thank you so much, Richard!!! Your work started decades ago has blessed me even these last couple of years!!!

[filmscorelife]

Draw also means persuade in the Greek. Sorry Calvinist, persuade is not all on one side in terms of culpability. Persuade involves the wills of at minimum two individuals.

[janetdavis]

FEEL BETTER SO, LEIGHTON! PRAYING FOR YOU 😻

[treysmith]

Leighton:
Refutes Calvi-view of John 6

Calvi:
Have you read Romans 9

Leighton:
Refutes Calvi-view of Romans 9

Calvi:
Have you read Ephesians 1

Leighton:
Refutes Calvi-view of Ephesians 1

Calvi:
Have you read John 6 and Romans 9?

[truthtransistorradio]

In my 20s, I was aware that there were different denominations and doctrines within the church. People would give me a book, or tell me to listen to a certain pastor to convince me of their systematic theology. Now a days, it's podcasts. I decided back then, that I wanted scripture to guide me, and not commentaries, systematic theologies, etc. I would listen to any and every systematic I hear. But I would always test it with scripture. I refuse to lock myself in any systematic theology. I want to be correctible as I study the bible and pray through it.

[sharoncole]

We left our Reformed Calvinist church after 13 years. Sweet family. We can't find a solid church. There's some very strange churches out there. 😢

[sethjohnson]

Thank you Richard! Such a valuable resource!

[gailpurcell]

So well said. Like - it isn't the "power" of prayer - it is the power of the One we pray to!

[brendagula]

Thank you to both of you for explaining the Callvanistic scriptures. I was not a Calvanist but did come across someone in my church which my church was not Calvanist but the Bible study person was. When I heard about this, my spirit struggled because there was no way those scriptures could be interpreted that way since they contradict the rest of scripture. So sad this doctrine exists. I had to study because I needed to be able to explain it better to others, and was so happy to find soteriology 101. Praise God for those who have come out of Calvanism and are helping others to see!

[JD-xzmx]

Calvinism has no chance at legitimacy even if you grant them those texts, as virtually every story in the Bible directly contradicts Calvinism.

Why would Christ ask the Father on his last night to let the cup pass from Him if Jesus already knew it was predetermined and immovable? Does James White understand God better than Jesus?

[John.]

After listening to this it appears that Calvinism is truly a different gospel. James White and others cannot see the clarity of scriptures because it appears that they have been given over to their desires Romans 1 style after consistently hardening themselves.

[dustinpaulson]

Way to lay the axe of truth to the root of error! Great episode!

[catharsis]

Enjoyed the broadcast! Looking forward to the next ones. Thank you for the resources as well!

[andreab]

I look forward to the next shows discussing the other 2 proof texts. Please have him back, great show!

[TW_LeftyGolf]

“For the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show Himself strong on behalf of those whose heart is loyal to Him. In this you have done foolishly; therefore from now on you shall have wars.””
‭‭II Chronicles‬ ‭16‬:‭9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

For a Calvinist it is impossible that God would find someone loyal to Him in the earth because “there is none righteous, no not one”

[sharonlouise]

Good segment! Looking forward to your upcoming discussions. I too am not a fan of study Bibles. I was discipling a new convert and she had a Women's Devotional study bible. I told her I wanted her to stop reading that and get a Bible with no commentary. I told her I didn't like it because she was simply reading what someone else got from the text and I wanted her to have her own comments from the text. Christians today have no reason at all for not studying Scriptures. Study bibles have a narrow focus and may or may not actually be correct. There is a bad tendency from Christians to be talking about "particular" texts and they are commenting and saying way more than what it actually says or even implies. I think we all have to work hard to allow the text to say what it is saying and that's it.

[SpielbergMichael]

This was awesome! I can’t wait for the next 2 parts!

[johnknight]

I noticed something as these gentlemen were discussing John 3:45 and 46, in verse 44, which seems to me to indicate that "all the glory" is not intended (by God) to go to Him;

"How can you believe, when you receive [j]glory from one another and you do not seek the [k]glory that is from the one and only God?"

I have several times tried to get Calvinists to realize/acknowledge that glory is a relational something, like friendship or love, not an independent something. Such that others giving glory to God is required for Him to receive. And here I see that it can't be His intention that all the glory is intended to go to Him, if He intends some glory to go the other way, from Him to those who glorify Him.


I usually use the KJV, which translates those occurrences of 'glory' in the NASB, as 'honor', so I never noticed the clear implication of the "reciprocal" quality of "glory", and saw it only as a reciprocal quality of 'honor', in the Book. Thinking (foolishly) that there was something peculiar/special about the term glory, indicated somewhere in the Book, which Calvinists were aware of that I was not. Nope, just another "special meaning" Calvinists infuse into a term, like they do with 'sovereignty', I now think.

(No wonder they never responded to my attempts to get them to discuss the relational quality of glory. They don't want to see it ; )

[SheilaSmith-zg]

In listening to this in depth, detailed and long discussion, I understand why Calvinists stubbornly stick to the same few talking points.
Thinking, examining, exploring, and studying scripture requires time and energy. If a person has never been required to do anything other than to accept what he/she has been taught, resistance to a deep dive into scripture would require significant time and energy.
I get it.
However if we examine the calvinist premises about Adam's sin and the resulting consequences, it is not found in Genesis 3.
We are Adam, minus the benefits of Eden. Human nature has never changed. Gods commands and promises have never changed.
The problem with a study Bible is it presents a point of view.
Trust that God has provided His written word for ALL to understand, independent of "teachers."