Is Joker 2 THAT BAD 😬

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If you start by saying “first off” that means yes 😂

faith
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Whoever thought it’d be a good idea to make the joker into a musical should be fired and banned from making any movies in the future.

KingSnake
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The first one was so good. Why did they do this. That's what I want to know.

ericapierson-way
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You know what hurts the most? It really wouldn’t have taken much to make a good follow up? You can feel how much Todd Philips didn’t care to do a good job.

AmethystEyes
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So after seeing it and going down a rabbit hole, I’ve come to realize that Todd Philips made the movie against the fans on purpose because like Arthur’s followers in the movie, people in theaters walked out on him when he admitted that there is no Joker. We definitely all wanted another chaotic joker power trip but it does not mean that we don’t like Arthur because he is probably the most tragic character I have seen and I felt so sorry for him through both movies….

SpiritualMain
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The ending of the movie turns into...
The Killing Joke...

mr.spadesviii
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that ain't harley quinn that's harley pop LOL

User-fhy
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As a psych researcher and Batman fan there were a few things wrong with the movie. This movie did not show multiple personality disorder in the character (but it did insinuate it incorrectly). It showed a depressed, anxious, possibly schizophrenic (though not entirely definitive) victim.
The Joker from the comics is by all counts a psychopath, with high levels of neuroticism, narcissism, and egoism, while engaging in sociopathic behaviours. This is the character we (as fans) all know and love.
The psychopathy present in a 'real Joker' cannot be just medicated away as seen in the movie. I mean it's possible to sedate the crazy, but it doesn't change the crazy...
Furthermore, Joker cares too much in the first film (meaning he isn't really a psychopath) and this carried on in the second film instead of disappearing in the new persona 'the Joker' (supporting the multiple personalities theory).
The pathology is wrong, like so wrong. It's honestly insulting how wrong the depiction of such an iconic character is...
I don't believe the Joker was shown in this film we did not see the 'Joker'. I think it's not hard to see why a movie would bomb if the movie doesn't show the characters it claims to present...

robertolsen
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Bro the script was just bad. And it was not a Joker movie, it was an arthur fleck movie.

loki
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You couldn’t understand what the movie was about? I mean it’s literally about his trial after the murders he committed in the first film…it’s pretty simple lmao

TylerAngel-xi
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Todd Philips can't make a good sequel seems like.

ScaredStraightProductions
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I feel like it could’ve been good without the musical parts lol

dankestranch
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I like how you included the staircase scene, heavily used in marketing material, that was eventually cut from the final film. That's all you need to know about this hot dumpster fire of a movie.

RoachDogg_JR
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This movie was amazing! But also not for the masses. This is artist being artist. It’s a character dive. The story is to learn more about how the character works. Nothing more

jesusesparza
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Idk why everyone hates Lady Gaga’s character, I’m mean, she’s better off as an actress than a singer

shanebracken
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It was alright, I enjoyed it but the movie says and does nothing

slyfurz
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I was so hooked onto joker and his relationship. It was a great movie I’m just sad how it ended considering how attached I was to joker. It rlly portrayed the idea of anti hero for me, in a city of just chaos. I think Harley was a rlly good partner sticking by him, but in the end that’s just how it is. I was a bit disappointed that joker said there is no joker cause that sounds cowardly.

MonsterMindset-wc
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This movie was a terrible dissapoinment. Do not watch it if you love the first one.

rockydownes
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I really liked the movie it makes me sad seeing so many people hate it

JoestarJordan
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Too much style and no substance. Exactly💯.
They just destroyed the whole olot of both the movies with that ending twist.
Basically just wasted 2+2 hours of everyones life.

alphabetagamma