The Danger of Oneness Theology

When you boil down Oneness Theology, you end up not having a Son. All of the verses that speak of the Son of God or the Son of the Father are just metaphors that really mean something other than what they say. It scares me greatly that people may be denying the very salvation that Yahweh sent.

[KingdomInContext]

Great word, brother. Needed in our era of both subtle and overt deceptions.

[cornfedlife]

I’ve listened to many scholarly preachers and teachers on this subject but the way you said it made it so much clearer than anything I’ve heard so far! God bless you brother!

[TorahwithNathan]

Late commenting on this but this is great. It brings to mind in 1st john about the one denying the father and the son. Thank you brother for bringing that to light! May YHWH shine blessings upon you and your family! Shalom.

[fringeviews]

It’s interesting that my family reached a very different conclusion: Oneness risks denying the Father. You pray to Jesus, you sing to Jesus, it’s all about Jesus, but you never hear the mention of Yahweh or the Father. I knew nothing of the Father with my Oneness upbringing. Now that I reject that doctrine and embrace what is now called biblical Unitarianism (NOT Unitarian Universalist), I have a greater love for Father and Son.

[camillewilliams]

I spoke with someone who holds to the oneness Christology yesterday. The conversation started fine. We're both Christian (or so I'd like to believe) and the topic of the trinity came up. I eventually realised he was against the trinity based on the way he was challenging what I was saying. I ended the conversation after a day because no matter what scripture I brought to him, he denied it. No matter the verse, he was adamant that the scripture did not back up the doctrine of three-in-one. He started bringing up polytheism, Tertullian and the Roman Catholic Church - at which point, I started to feel the conversation would be fruitless.

It was more like he just wanted a debate with zero willingness to follow my train of thought. He didn't want to be called an adherent to Oneness Pentecostalism which is my inference. He kept saying his view was in keeping with what the apostles' teachings. And argued that since the term "trinity" wasn't in the Bible, it was not backed up by the word. the way he was talking, I asked him if he believed in the Sonship of Christ. He never answered that and at one point said that saying Christ was a part of the Godhead reduced him. I was like??? He totally misunderstands what the Trinity is. When you meet someone so stubborn the best thing is to leave them to God. Only the Holy Spirit can change minds. Thankfully, we ended on amicable and respectful terms.

[bmoss]

Shem Tov's Hebrew Matthew 1:21 "She shall bear a son and you will call his name Yeshua, for he will save *MY* people from their sins."

[danchase]

If you are a father, are you not also a son yourself? Can you not be a Father And Son? Oneness theology does have a son, but that son is God. God Himself died for you. Trinitarian beliefs take away from that precious revelation that an almighty God would go to the cross just for the sake of salvation. Acts 20:28 says *“…to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.”*

[Netseriym]

Amen brother, very well put!

John 17:3 — “And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true YAH, and Yeshua Messiah whom You have sent.”

[BCWilliams]

Thank you, Matthew - I totally agree. I remember the first time I heard this thinking a couple years ago, I was blown away. I'd never heard it and could never understand it. Yahusha spoke to His Father TOO many times to believe He was speaking to Himself!

[dgreenja]

The Sonship within oneness theology, is that of the flesh. The fact that his human existence constitutes his Sonship, and is not another person, how does that imply that the Son is not actual?

Which member of the trinity made the divine claim of being God alone, in Isaiah 44:6?

Jesus is the Creator as divine. He became a part of his own creation, without becoming another person. As divine he saw the creation he became, as one of his own creation he could and did communicate with. He was therefore his own Creator as well as his own creation, in one person, divine and human. He was divinely the Shepherd of Israel, who became one of his own sheep, even in the person of the sacrificial Lamb of God, while not ceasing to be the one true Shepherd of Israel. He was therefore his own Shepherd, as well as his own sheep, in one person, divine and human. Likewise, he was the Father of his creation, who became one of his own sons, even the only begotten Son of God, within the creative lineage from Adam to Christ.

Jesus said he is the root (Father) of David. Do you not think that as the root of David, he was also the root of the offspring of David, which would make him to be the Father of David and his offspring, the Christ? Jesus being the root of David, implies his also being the root or the Father of the entire messianic lineage of Jesus Christ. Now Jesus as the divine source the messianic lineage, became one of his own sons in the lineage. Now what relation does the root of David have to the last child of the lineage, and what relation does this last child (the offspring) have to the root?

[LightSeekers]

This was EXTREMELY helpful to me. I have never touched on these debates that have become prevalent in Torah teachers today. Probably due to my lack of knowledge in this area I tend to completely avoid these debates. Watching this has made it clear and easy to understand. Thanks for an honest assessment.

[YAHOOISNOTG]

For oneness theology to make the best sense for someone who has trouble understanding it, is to study what the Father/Son relationship was in those times. Then you will better understand why the bible uses those terms when referring to YAHWEH as Son. Don't we agree God humbled himself and made himself of no reputation being born of flesh and blood like us? Wasn't Jesus fully man and divine at the same time? Didn't Jesus grew in wisdom and learned to obey? Didn't He submit himself to the will of the Father? Didn't he eat and sleep? That's what we refer to as the Son of God since God all mighty does none of those things. I find it very interesting how trinitarian Christians become muslim-like when debating oneness and when debating against muslims they use the same arguments we do, pretty ironic tbh.

The major difference i see is that you believe God did all those things except it was the "2nd person of the trinity" and not YAHWEH himself. Which to me sounds pretty selfish. Especially when considering what Jesus said in John 15:13. So then does that mean the Son loves us more than the Father? We do not deny the Son at all, matter of fact most oneness Christians focus too much on the Son and not enough on the Father. This goes to show how misunderstood oneness theology is despite being a lot more simple than the theological mess the trinity is.

And don't get me started on nonsensical popular trinity arguments like "Who did God love before creation?" Brothers, God is love, he doesn't need anyone or anything to love. The scripture tells us he loves himself since he's the source of everything good. God's everlasting love is not contingent on creation. And if that wasn't enough, He is omniscient. meaning he can love eternally before creating.

[gamegenie]

Amen brother. The Son is the chosen mediator. Mediation requires three parties.

[biblest]

Jesus was certainly oneness. The greatest command even. Yes we believe in the son. God is both the father and son and spirit. Still we have the son.

[coxfordGamer]

Furthermore if Jesus is not the God of Israel, He's a different God. Isaiah 35:4-6 says God was coming and no one else, and when He did He would open the eyes of the blind, heal the lame deaf and dumb, we can't deny Jesus did all this and more.

[Blacklist]

I'm not trying to argue, just sharing what I've learned. 🙏

[ONEFAITHofJESUS]

Greetings of peace in the NAME of JESUS, You are correct. When you boil it down, oneness theology denies the Son. JESUS becomes nothing more than the shell of God. For you to have this depth of insight, not having a background in oneness Pentecostalism is a gift from God.
Now please say you are not trinitarian which also attempts to prevail against the very Rock Jesus is building His “church” ekklesia upon.
Matthew 16:16 🪨

[thomassparks]

We don't deny the son the fullness of the God head is in Jesus

[andrewlopez]

the Son of God is the man Christ Jesus. if saying the Father manifested in the flesh is wrong what do we make of Isaiah‬ ‭9:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬
[6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

[juanitolopez]

1 Timothy 3:16 John 14:7-9 this is in plain English