Calvinism vs. Arminianism - which view is correct?

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Calvinism vs. Arminianism - which view is correct? What are the five points of Calvinism vs. the five points of Arminianism?
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People need to relax about this. Yes, they are slightly controversial theologies, but they aren’t saving theologies. Paul warns Christians about quarreling over useless controversies

obi-wankenobi
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I have moved far from my home and find myself between a Calvinistic & Arminianistic church. They both are preaching the gospel, preaching against sin, and preaching one God. Each have boldly opened up to me to share certain beliefs. Beliefs that go against the scriptures or have no basis in the scriptures at all. Is anyone else praying as I am? “Father! Your Church is so divided. We your children are confused and preaching false doctrines. We deny the salvation of others you gave your life for. Please bring harmony, let the Presbyterian worship with the Pentecostal, the Mennonite with the Baptist, the Calvinist with the Apostolics. Lord you are one God and have given us one Word. Let us love one another and humble ourselves to come to you for wisdom and not our corporations. If David could dance alone in the streets in gratitude for your mercies and favor then why should we be prohibited from raising our hands to heaven when we sing to you? If your apostles lived with very little possessions and without wealth then why must our Christian leaders have earthly treasures like real estate, boats, vacation homes, large salaries? God! Shake your Church. Let her fall to the ground in fear. Open our eyes to our foolishness.”

bradleymiller
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When I embraced Christianity, I found it difficult to maintain these perspectives, as I discovered inherent inconsistencies within both doctrines that ultimately contradict biblical teachings. The Bible teaches both God's sovereignty and man's free will, why destroy what God has created beautifully. These truths are friends and not enemies, why separate them?

oxygentank
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I can only speak from experience. When I first decided to walk down the aisle of a small Christian non-denominational church and receive Jesus as my Lord and Savior I was completely ignorant when it came to the Bible or salvation for that matter.
I had come from a dirty background of alcohol, drugs, nightclubs, and one night stands. My faith at the time stood firm on science which up until that moment had been led by deep study into physics emphasizing on general relativity and quantum mechanics. I understood these concepts very well, but I also realized science couldn’t save my soul so that’s when I turned to the Word of God.
I had been raised a Catholic, by tradition not choice, but I never found real interest in religious dogma. To me their ritualistic approach to matters of faith were dull and boring, I was more interested in the pursuit of knowledge and wisdom.
After having received Jesus in Oct of 91, I was told by the pastor that I was now saved and on my way to Heaven; people really? That’s it? I didn’t feel any different, my thoughts, motives, and attitude remained the same. I decided that I wasn’t going to just take this pastor’s word, I was going to do my own homework. I had to, my soul and my eternal future depended on it and I was a person that needed absolute certainty!
I decided to purchase the King James Bible on CD and listen to it on all those wasted hours driving back and forth to work in rush hour traffic. Travel time to work was an hour, an hour lunch which I spent in my car eating a sandwich out of a small cooler, and the hour drive back home. That was 3 hours of Word a day 5 times per week. That’s a lot of Word! This went on for little over 3 years where not only did I have scores and scores of scriptures memorized, but also entire CHAPTERS memorized verbatim word for word. I could tell you what is in the Bible and what isn’t. I had a tremendous amount of Word in my head, not in my heart.
This would change one memorable Saturday morning March 25, 1995. I was alone in my car at the beach listening to integrity Hosana Worship music, reading God’s Word, and loving Him with all my heart, mind, soul, and strength. I remember reading in Matthew chapter 5 to “love your enemies”, this was something I could never see myself doing! How can you possibly love someone that’s causing you harm? I don’t understand this kind of love! I looked up to the sky and let my imagination, which by now was overflowing with love, run wild as to how beautiful it would be to be just like Jesus!
Suddenly it happened, it really happened! I saw something open within my mind and all that Word I had accumulated for years poured into me removing the blinders from my eyes, causing my brain processes to skyrocket, and giving me the knowledge of God!

“Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my Spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.”
(Proverbs 1:23)

I was terrified! I literally felt the demons that lived in me and had been with me my entire life leap out of me with a hideous screech! How is this possible Lord, I thought, how can a mere man understand God? Scriptures began flooding my mind:

“My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee; So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding; Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding; If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures; Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.”
(Proverbs 2:1-5)

When I picked up the Bible and began reading it something was now very different. I had always read and listened to the Bible as a 3rd person, in other words, this apostle is writing to this other apostle, this scripture doesn’t apply to me. This is of course the mental BEAM spoken of by Jesus in Matthew chapter 7. For the very first time since I began my study of the scriptures did I realize the scriptures were speaking directly to me! The Words were like 3-D, a hologram! Who is this 3rd person I keep imagining? Every scripture, every parable I didn’t seem to understand was as plain as if I was reading a children’s book! This is when I could see the utter Perfection of God’s Word and the inerrancy of scripture. The only way to describe what had just happened to me was “HOLINESS” had entered me!

“The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.”
(Proverbs9:10)

So you may be asking yourself, how does my testimony relate to this video? Well it seems to me it’s quite obvious. There is only one Jesus, the one revealed in scripture. Jesus and the written Word are ONE AND THE SAME. There is no other way to God except through His Word! It is the Word that gives the reader the SPIRIT:

“It is the SPIRIT that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the WORDS that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are life.”
(John 6:63)

The fact is you must be BORN AGAIN of the Word:

“Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the WORD OF GOD, which liveth and abideth for ever.”
(1 Peter 1:23)

When you read the following passage with those Words in 3-D jumping out of the pages you will come to the realization that the Bible is speaking of itself!

“I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by ME.”
(John 14:6)

So this argument of Calvinism vs Arminianism is settled, EVERYONE can approach the scriptures the way I did, and EVERYONE can love God the way did, and God will reveal Himself to whom ever He sees is ready to receive His Truth. So the question is not which one of these two views is correct, but rather how much is the individual willing to do to love and find God!

“If ye continue in my WORD, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall make you FREE.”
(John 8:31-32)

evongreiff
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This video was very helpful and gracious, thank you. Currently, I am doing a study on this topic, and haven't reached a conclusion yet. Prayerfully, I will continue to study and hope that I honor God through His Word.

wyattwahlgren
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All I know is that I was once blind but now I see.

kaboom
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Both views actually seem correct to me based on the nature of God. God is all knowing. He lives outside of time so he can see the past present and future all at once as if it were panoramic photo. Because God's knows all he know who will believe and who won't. Yes Jesus died for everyone. But man has freewill and has to make there own choices. God won't force anyone to love him. Love involves choosing. But because God knows everything, He can already see who is going to choose Him(elect) and who won't ahead of time. The most important part of all this is eventhough God knows who will say yes to Him, we don't. So it is our job to continue to share the gospel with everyone because we are not all knowing.

michellesolomon
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There are things I disagree with about both views. I especially disagree with conditional salvation. I think Romans 8 makes it clear that nothing can ever cause a saved person to lose the gift God has already paid for. That doesn't mean that there won't be consequences for our unfaithfulness. Salvation is a gift not earned and sanctification is the process that begins after salvation. we all continue to sin after salvation. Sanctification is growing in holiness and is the road we walk in our mortal bodies desiring to be more like jesus.

Vinylfiend
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Predestination or free will? The answer is “yes”

mystwolfe
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Call me crazy but none of this sounds contradictory to me. Actually, it seems like they are both true, just looking from different angles. I think people often times believe they are disagreeing with one another when really they’re not. Just a humble observation

amber
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When Calvin died, Jacobus was only 4 years old, had not even gone to pre-school! Wished they were born round about the same time so that they could have debated their ideas!!😂

michaelsamuel
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Fantastic conclusion! 3:30
I studied this deeply across the word of God a couple years ago and came to the same conclusion.

joshuaj.jackson
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" Salvation is of the Lord. " Jonah 2:9

reginaldfulenwider
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FYI...S. Michael Houdmann, is the founder, president, and ceo, of Got Questions Ministries and he is indeed a Calvinist. Got Questions is written from a Calvinist point of view.

EricMurrill
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I love your summary at the end. Perfect. Does not matter at the end of the day as long as we make sure not to harden our hearts when he hear his call and to be obedient and persevere to the end. Both views hold truth but I doubt any has it all right. God would have made it super clear what election means if he wanted us to know everything. some mysteries will only be revealed in heaven.

mwendwa_m
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Last few seconds of the video is priceless! Thank you so much

theresehelmy
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Everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved - Romans 10:13 Try explaining that without adding to the words of God

joeydaniel
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Charles Simeon (Calvinist) and John Wesley (Arminian):

[Simeon] Sir, I understand that you are called an Arminian; and I have been sometimes called a Calvinist; and therefore I suppose we are to draw daggers. But before I consent to begin the combat, with your permission I will ask you a few questions. Pray, Sir, do you feel yourself a depraved creature, so depraved that you would never have thought of turning to God, if God had not first put it into your heart?

[Wesley] Yes, I do indeed.

[Simeon] And do you utterly despair of recommending yourself to God by anything you can do; and look for salvation solely through the blood and righteousness of Christ?

[Wesley] Yes, solely through Christ.

[Simeon] But, Sir, supposing you were at first saved by Christ, are you not somehow or other to save yourself afterwards by your own works?

[Wesley] No, I must be saved by Christ from first to last.

[Simeon] Allowing, then, that you were first turned by the grace of God, are you not in some way or other to keep yourself by your own power?

[Wesley] No.

[Simeon] What then, are you to be upheld every hour and every moment by God, as much as an infant in its mother’s arms?

[Wesley] Yes, altogether.

[Simeon] And is all your hope in the grace and mercy of God to preserve you unto His heavenly kingdom?

[Wesley] Yes, I have no hope but in Him.

[Simeon] Then, Sir, with your leave I will put up my dagger again; for this is all my Calvinism; this is my election my justification by faith, my final perseverance: it is in substance all that I hold, and as I hold it; and therefore, if you please, instead of searching out terms and phrases to be a ground of contention between us, we will cordially unite in those things where in we agree.

wiekhiongwong
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Keep in mind that "Got Questions" is a Calvinistic leaning organization.

douggarrett
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We are completely responsible for our actions and at the exact same time everything is predetermined by God. We choose God because He chose us. We can accept that but we can never comprehend it because the finite mind cannot comprehend God.

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