Is Paul A False Apostle?!

There is a question that is going around on the internet, "Is Paul a false apostle?" People are arguing that Paul's epistles should be ripped out of the Bible because Paul was a false apostle. Some even argue that he is THE Antichrist mentioned by John the Apostle. We look at this fringe theology as an example of how false doctrines can confuse and tempt new disciples.

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[shanejohnson]

Romans 13 raised questions with me, and from my understanding, many others. It was from there that I questioned Pauline theology and realized he was the one Jesus warned us about in Mathew 7:15.

[samprice]

I was once very much like you. Having been raised in the church as a child. I am very familiar with Paul but have also come to the conclusion that he is not who he says he is. And the Bible is not the inherent word of God. Not everything in there is from the Lord and the Bible itself has been changed and altered for thousands of years. The original Old Testament was even written on separate scrolls.

I encourage to really take a step back and throughly compare both sides of the argument. Pray and do intense research because many believers out there are starting to come to this truth. Many whom are familiar with what Paul preaches. This is far from a false domination like Jehovah witness or Mormons. This is about really learning what Jesus actually preached, what the early Christians believed and following him as our sole teacher.

That is what I did before I made the decision to follow Jesus alone. Because when we follow him alone we cannot fail. Also I encourage you to study what Paul preached about it being okay to eat meat sacrificed to idols as long as it doesn’t effect a brother with a “weak conscience”. Extremely different to what Jesus warned in revelation and what the apostles said we can not eat in the book of acts. I pray you continue to search for truth because our salvation depends on it.

Blessings,

Samantha

[David..]

I think the problem is that people put too much faith in Paul instead of scrutinizing his writings, there are many lies and twists o scripture, which is strictly condemned in deut4:2 and Rev22. Nobody needed to tell me about Paul, I saw lies and contradictions to Jesus' words and God's word and his writings lead people to sin because it's a lukewarm doctrine. He who has ears to hear, if you are not serious about God's word or Jesus' teachings to the legitimate chosen 12 apostles, Paul has an excuse for you to be as Eve and take Paul's word instead. Acts 1:21-26, Rev21:14, Gal5:14 or Matt 22:37-40. It should be the word of God to follow without excuse for anyone because people will take one verse and base their salvation on it, too many false ones and you have a whole false doctrine, which Paul accommodates.

[Noah]

#8 God condems eating food offerings to other fake idols and gods. Saul/Paul condones it.
• [1 Corinthians 8:4-8] Paul says it doesn't matter if you eat food offered to idols/gods.
• [1 Corinthians 10:25-27] Pauls says eat whatever is place in front of you without asking questions.
• [Exodus 34:13-15] God saying you worship only him. And if you eat food offered to false gods you are worshiping that false god.
• [Numbers 25:1-3] Israelites worships and ate to false gods and God's anger was kindled towards them.
• [Deuteronomy 32:37-38] Another example of Israelites eating food to false gods and God being angry with them.
• [Psalms 106:28-29] Yet another example of of provoking God to anger for eat food sacrifices to false gods and idols. God cursed them with a plague because of their false food offerings.

#9 Saul/Paul exhalts himself above everyone else. Christ says we are all brothers and sister with one Father.
• [1 Corinthians 4:15 ESV]
[15] For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.
• [2 Timothy 1:11 ESV]
[11] for which I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher,
• [Matthew 23:9-12 ESV]
[9] And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. [10] Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ. [11] The greatest among you shall be your servant. [12] Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

#10 Saul/Paul thinks he know whats inside the Ark of the covenant when it has been lost for hundreds of years before Saul/Paul. Several times in the old Testiment the Prophets of old say there is only the two stone tablets moses made inside the ark. Saul/Paul says otherwise.
• [Hebrews 9:4 ESV]
[4] having the golden altar of incense and the ark of the covenant covered on all sides with gold, in which was a golden urn holding the manna, and Aaron’s staff that budded, and the tablets of the covenant.
• [1 Kings 8:6-9 ESV]
[6] Then the priests brought the ark of the covenant of the Lord to its place in the inner sanctuary of the house, in the Most Holy Place, underneath the wings of the cherubim. [7] For the cherubim spread out their wings over the place of the ark, so that the cherubim overshadowed the ark and its poles. [8] And the poles were so long that the ends of the poles were seen from the Holy Place before the inner sanctuary; but they could not be seen from outside. And they are there to this day. [9] There was nothing in the ark except the two tablets of stone that Moses put there at Horeb, where the Lord made a covenant with the people of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt.
• [2 Chronicles 5:8-10 ESV]
[8] The cherubim spread out their wings over the place of the ark, so that the cherubim made a covering above the ark and its poles. [9] And the poles were so long that the ends of the poles were seen from the Holy Place before the inner sanctuary, but they could not be seen from outside. And they are there to this day. [10] There was nothing in the ark except the two tablets that Moses put there at Horeb, where the Lord made a covenant with the people of Israel, when they came out of Egypt.
• [Numbers 17] Explains what happens to Aarons staff.

#11 Saul/Paul contradicting the prophets of old. By saying God doesn't dwell in temples made by man. God dwells everywhere. He is everywhere simultaneously. But yes in the Old Testiment he does dwell in tents and buildings.
• [Acts 17:24 ESV]
[24] The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by man,
• [Exodus 15:17] [Exodus 23:19 [Exodus 29:44-46] [1 Kings 8] The entire chapter of 1 Kings 8 is about building a house for God and for the Ark of the covenant. Moses built a tent for God in Exodus.



#12 My final point I make against Saul/Paul and why I think he was working for Satan. Saul/Paul had a demon attached to him for a long period of time and he tells us Jesus refused to remove the demon from him. I'm going to copy directly from the bible for this segment because it proves 100% that Saul/Paul worked for the devil.
• [2 Corinthians 12:7-9 ESV]
[7] So to keep me from becoming conceited because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from becoming conceited. [8] Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. [9] But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
• [Mark 3:23-26 ESV)
[23] And he called them to him and said to them in parables, “How can Satan cast out Satan? [24] If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. [25] And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. [26] And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end.
• [Matthew 12:24-26 ESV]
[24] But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.” [25] Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. [26] And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?

Conclusion

I believe Saul/Paul to be the first stumbling stone on the path of true believers in Christ. All the church denominations started from Saul/Paul. If you pay attention every church sermon quotes and elevates Saul/Paul more than they do Christ. They should be quoting Christ and Christ alone. If we forget the LORD and elevate Saul/Paul God will give us our portion in hell.

[Jeremiah 13:25 ESV]
[25] This is your lot, the portion I have measured out to you, declares the Lord, because you have forgotten me and trusted in lies.

[TheShutterbug]

You are replacing covenant with law. Two different things. Covenant or agreement God had with different generations of people. Read book of Jeremiah for answers;

Jeremiah 31:31-34 NKJV
"Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- [32] not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD. [33] But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. [34] No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD, ' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."

Whos is the messenger of this covenant? Malachi 3:1-3 NKJV
"Behold, I send My messenger, And he will prepare the way before Me. And the Lord, whom you seek, Will suddenly come to His temple, Even the Messenger of the covenant, In whom you delight. Behold, He is coming, " Says the LORD of hosts. [2] "But who can endure the day of His coming? And who can stand when He appears? For He is like a refiner's fire And like launderers' soap. [3] He will sit as a refiner and a purifier of silver; He will purify the sons of Levi, And purge them as gold and silver, That they may offer to the LORD An offering in righteousness.


Jesus broutht the NEW COVENANT with the SAME LAW. The commandments that resided in the ark.

So you supporting Paul who says the law is over goes against God's word. Paul is the false apostle Jesus warned about in Matthew 24.

Why do we need to listen to Paul? Jesus is the only way...ONLY WAY. Send five quotes of Jesus that Paul gave.

[treeofeternallifearvoredav]

You will give account to God for falling for Paul / FOLLOWING PAUL RATHER THAN JESUS and even dragging others into his false doctrine which is at Odds with God the Father and Jesus!

[-TheExposition-]

Paul denies that Jesus even came in the flesh as he says in Romans that Jesus came in the likeness of sinful human flesh. The word for likeness here is homomati. The word means likeness and Paul is indeed saying that Jesus came in the "likeness of men" because Paul also teaches that all flesh is sinful. Paul also teaches that Jesus came in the likeness and fashion a of man in Phil 2:7.
Fashion "make, shape, appearance"
As in to dress as not be.

1 John says many false prophets have gone out into the world and to not believe all who say the be sent of God.
Here John says that false prophets have a spirit in them that denies Jesus came in flesh (actual human, meaning he was a man).
Paul was a highly educated man. The fact that he uses the word likeness and word fashion means he knows exactly what he's doing. This is no grammar error. Paul is denying that Jesus came in human form and rather saying he only appeared to have the form of a man in likeness by being fashioned (shaped in the appearance as) to look as if he was a man, though he was not in actual sinful flesh.

1 John says these false prophets also do not listen to the apostles, that they do not remain w/ the apostles who they went of from among and that they do not remain in the doctrine of Jesus and his apostles.

Galatians 2:1-9 Paul boats of learning nothing from the apostles and even scoffs at them.
In Galatians Paul openly admits that he learned his doctrine of grace through divine revelation stating that no man taught it unto him. If no man taught it then it is not the disciples doctrine as Paul admits himself. Paul also departed from among the disciples. Paul has hit every marker mentioned in 1 John for being a false apostle.

Pause. I know this is hard to hear, very hard to hear. Jesus said "If one asks you to walk w/ him one mile walk w/ him two". I quote this so I may ask you to walk w/ me a mile as I simply convey to you what the scriptures themselves convey.

Jude who is the brother of Jesus tells us that the faith was one time delivered unto all the saints and that this is commonly known.
If Jude is correct then what he's saying is that the faith was one time delivered unto all the saints and that time would naturally be during the physical life of Jesus in which Jesus taught of that faith openly which makes it "common known".

If Jesus taught Paul then Jude is incorrect for Paul was taught in secret and was also taught later after the disciples and not by any man. This naturally makes Paul's faith a faith second delivered after the life of Jesus and a faith uncommonly known of. This conflicts w/ Jude. Both can not be right.

Please do not let your human pride rise up in you thinking who can tell me who knows God and is trained. Do not let your own ego speak to you for our human understanding is but of a human mind.


Jude goes on "they from old have been ordained"
Gen 49 "ravenous wolf he shall divide the flock (of God) and divide the spoil." prophesy over Benjamin tribe. Paul of tribe of Benjamin. Jesus "ravenous wolves in sheep's clothing coming after me". Paul himself later says "ravenous wolves coming in after I Paul depart". The only three times "ravenous wolves" appears in all of scripture are here."

Ordained of old Benjamin shall be a ravenous wolf who becomes a false prophet is what Jude is teaching.

Jude continues "they have gone the way of Cain" Paul Murderer!
Jude "like Balaam they greedily seek after reward. Paul "the man who preaches the gospel ought make his living off the gospel" and
"I am worthy of a double portion"

Jude "they feast among you w/ out fear"
Paul "it's no big deal to eat meat sacrificed to an idol."
How do they offer animals unto idols? Strangulation often, animal corpse mutilation and desecration of its body to appease blood lust of demons. Literally offer it unto Satan.

Jude "they despise authority"
Paul "I learned nothing from the apostles" "confronted Peter openly who was head apostle"
Confronted Peter in Antioch. Antioch church ran by Herod the Tretrarch, Manean ( both childhood friends raised by elitists who hated Jesus) and Paul (Pharisee raised by enemies of Jesus(
Now all grown men and following Jesus yet calling themselves teachers and prophets at the exact same church in Antioch where this Apostolic split occurs. Former enemy childhood friends of Jesus now run the church and out of this church comes one who has the authority to challenge Peter who Jesus personally chose? Very convenient.
Beware the leaven of Pharisees and of Herod.

Jude "They rail against spiritual powers"
"If an angel from heaven preach any other gospel let him be cursed"

Jude "These filthy dreamers by the abundance of their dreams boast"
Paul "By the abundance of revelations I was given..."
Paul checks all the markers in Jude as well.

Did Jesus come to give sight to the blind or did he come to blind men on the road to Damascus?
This is but a fraction of the scriptures that confirm this point. It is my hope that the spirit in you would seek rather than your human pride cause you to fall.

Most fall for 2 billion believe they know the way yet few be there that find it.
"I am the way, the truth, the life" said Jesus. Those who follow him must come out from among the teachings of Paul.

[Myunvaxedlife]

Paul is Revelation 2:2 Line up Jesus words next to Paul’s. Then decide who you are going to follow… Paul? Or Jesus? I’m not following Paul.

[KeepingWatch]

_Jesus is the way the truth and the life._

John 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, *I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.*

_And it is Jesus' teachings, his instructions, his warnings, and foretellings in which proves Paul wrong and proves Paul made the false claim to being the apostle of the Gentiles._

_Paul is not the way the truth and the life._

_Follow Jesus._

[Noah]

Evidence Saul/Paul is a false prophet.

God commands us to test false prophets.
• Deuteronomy 13:1-5
• Jeremiah 29:8-9
• 1 John 4:1
• Revelations 2:2
There are many false prophets.
• Matthew 7:15-20
• Matthew 24:11
• 1 John 4:1
False prophets claim to speak in the name of God.
• Jeremiah 14:14-16
• Jeremiah 23:25-34
• Jeremiah 29:8-9
• Ezekiel 22:28
False prophets perform counterfeit signs and wonders.
• Matthew 24:24
• Mark 13:22-23
A matter shall be established by two or three witnesses.
• Deuteronomy 19:15
• Matthew 18:16
• John 8:17
• Revelations 11:3

#1 Saul/Paul does not meet the requirements for being an apostle.
• [Matthew 10:2-4] [Mark 3:16-19] [Luke 6:14-16] Jesus picked his apostles himself.
• [Acts 1:15-20] Prophecy rquired twelve apostles, so after Judas killed himself another must be appointed in his place.
• [Acts 1:21-22] [Acts 1:26]. Three requirements for the apostles to take Judas place.
1. "Accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us.
2. "Beginning with the baptism of John until the day that he was taken up from us"
3. "Witness with us of His ressurection.
• [Acts 1:23-26] [Acts 6:2] The eleven apostles prayed to God asking which one should replace Judas. God chose Matthias. Then there were twele apostles.
• [Matthew 10:1-4] [Mark 3:16-19] [Luke 6:13-16] [Revelations 21:14] There are only suppose to be twelve apostles. Paul would make thirteen.

#2 Jesus never appeared to Saul/Paul. Jesus said after he ascended to the Father, the next time we would see him everyone would see him like lightning from East to West in all His Glory. [Matthew 24:27]
• [Acts 1:6-11] [Luke 24:51] After Christs resurrection he spent forty days with his apostles and then ascended to the father.
• [Mark 16:19] [Luke 22:69] [Acts 7:55] Christ ascended and sat at the right hand of God.
• [Matthew 23:39] [John 16:10] Jesus said after ascending to heaven we would no longer see him.
• [Matthew 16:27] [Matthew 24:30] [Matthew 25:31] [Mark 14:62] [Luke 21:27] After ascending to heaven when Christ comes back it will be for everyone to see and in all His Glory.
• [Matthew 24:27] [Luke 17:24] [Daniel 7:13] [Revelations 1:7] Again Christ will come back in the clouds and there will be lightning.

#3 Jesus warned us false prophets will claim they have seen him. Matthew 7:15 talks about wolves in sheeps clothing. Saul/Paul is from the tribe of Benjamin, this tribe is prophesied to be a wolf tribe. "Benjamin is a ravenous wolf, In the morning devouring the prey and at the evening dividing the spoil." Saul hunted and killed followers of Christ. Then he claimed to be a follower meanwhile dividing the apostles and dividing the followers of Christ in different church denominations.
• [Genesis 49:27] [Matthew7:15] [Matthew 24:11]
• [Matthew 24: 23-27] This passage says if someone claims to have seen the Christ in the wildnerness or in the inner rooms do not believe them. Saul/Paul claimed both.
• [Acts 8:1] Saul/Paul scatters the follwers of Christ. This could be seen as "dividing the spoils".
• [Acts 8:3]
[3] "But Saul was ravaging the church, and entering house after house, he dragged off men and women and committed them to prison." [ESV]
• [Romans 11:1] Saul/Paul stating hes from the tribe of Benjamin.

#4 Saul/Pauls conversion story changes every time he tells it. Just like Joseph Smith. Its quite similar.
• [Acts 9:1-19] Saul/Paul says he was blinded by a light and fell down, then heard Jesus, who told Paul that he would be told what to do when he was in the city. His men did not see the light, but heard the voice. They remained standing.
• [Acts 22:6-11] Saul/Paul told the people he was blinded by a light and fell down, then heard Jesus, who again told Paul that he would be told what to do when he was in Damascus. This time, his men saw the light but, unlike Paul, were not blinded, and did not hear the voice.
• [Acts 26:13-19] Saul/Paul told Agrippa that he saw a brilliant light and heard Jesus, who gave him his mission, but did not command him to go to Damascus. He fell down, but there is no mention of blindness, nor is there any mention of the men seeing or hearing anything, although for some reason they also fell down. He told those at Damascus and Jerusalem about his conversion experience.

#5 Saul/Paul after his conversion says Jesus gave him the one and only true gospel to preach. A gospel Jesus didn't preach himself nor told the twelve true apostles to preach... Sounds like a certain liar from the 1800's.
• [Romans 16:25] My gospel? Okay Saul...
• [Colossians 1:25-26] Sounds like Joseph Smith.
• [Titus 1:1-3] Again, sounds like the mormon prophet.
• [Galatians 1:11-12]
• [2 Corinthians 12:1] Boasting much?

#6 Saul/Paul says he will lie to further his false agenda.
• [Romans 3:7]
• Jesus is against lying, obviously. [John 8:44] [1 John 2:22]

#7 Did Jesus prophesy about Saul/Paul leading people astray?
• [1 Corinthians 16:18] Paul saying he was in Ephesus.
• [2 Timothy 1:15] Asia turning away from Paul
• [Acts 18: 12-13] "This man is persuading people to worship God contrary to the law." Speaking of Saul/Paul.
• [Acts 21:27-28] The people in Asia trying to arrest Paul for his blasphemy.
• [Revelations 2:2-3] Jesus is acknowledging and approving that the church in Ephesus turned away the false prophet that came preaching a false gospel. The false prophet being Saul/Paul.

[josephpendleton]

Jesus Christ warned that false prophets and false messiahs are capable of deceiving the very elect if possible (Matthew 24 verse 24). Paul succeeded in deceiving Luke, James, Peter, and other true believers of Jesus Christ by making them believe the lie that he was a true servant of God. That is why Acts of the Apostles contradicts with what Paul wrote in his letters.

What matters is what Jesus Christ taught. Jesus Christ told his 11 disciples to teach what he taught to Gentiles (Matthew 28 verses 16 to 20).

I highly recommend my works which expose Paul as a fraud.

[LucasGearing]

Deuteronomy 13:1-4 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,

And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;

Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

Matthew 24:24-26 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Behold, I have told you before.

Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

2 Corinthians 12:12 Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.

[According_To_Matt]

Poor Paul, still battling the Judaisers 2000 years later.

I've even heard the argument from HR teachers that God put Paul's false teaching in the Bible so we would recognize false teachings.

[waynegabler]

Paul is one Scribe God used. To be a 'child of the light' (1Thess:5) you have to understand what each Prophet has written.
Christianity starts with the doubting Thomas story. To move past that, you have to know the OT as clearly as you should know the NT:
Lu:24:27:
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets,
he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
De:4:30:
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
.
.

[sylviashaw]

Thanks for your very good analysis and teaching on this subject.

[bobzthecat]

How interesting that you mention acts 15 when paul and barnabus visited the apostles and the apostles decide that the gentiles dont need to follow the law of moses except certain "necessary" things. These necessary things were fornication, not eating blood and not eating food sacrificed to idols. Did paul take this teaching back and expound it? No. He wrote to the church to tell them they can eat anything, even food from an idols temple, as long as they dont do it in front of a brother who disagrees, for the sake of his concience. Paul taught a different gospel in opposition to the original apostles

[Nazareyes-zuul]

Peter was clear that Paul’s words were often misunderstood just as Jesus said concerning the Pharisees that they could not understand his teachings

[Forgivenmuchlovesmuch]

Acts 19:15 is a great verse to remember here too. I’ve argued this with Hebraic roots people as well and they always go back to what Peter said and they say…well, Paul is hard to understand and you are twisting his words.

[RabbitholeIsrael]

And also ask why the church leader of that time named James/Jacob, the brother of messiah. Didnt get more of his writings into the bible. I read that James wrote alot of books, yet almost nothing made it into the bible. Nor the other letters of Peter like the nazarene acts of the apostles also called clementine homilies. This being more of an ACTS of the actual disciples/apostles, than the one currently in our bibles talking about an unknown character named paul mostly.

[ceasarbrantley]

Well this is an interesting turnout, because I had been hoping that Paul would be my father, as I even desire to be sealed with the seal of his apostleship. Acts 9:15 shows us that the Lord spoke concerning Paul being His choice instrument for ministry.
Anyone who is actively seeking to discredit Paul's ambassadorial testimony is blind. I believe that Paul was greater than the emperor Caesar in wisdom, excellence, and good works - and that the angelic testimony (Acts 27:24) also serves to provide an abrasive for Paul's astounding endurance in the way of Christ. Imagine how the world would be if Caesar had commended Paul's noble character, and approved his writings as a source of spiritual enlightenment. Yet, Paul's indelible mark on this world is approved today by the Almighty, and also by us who are exercised thereby to contain a good report.