We Need To Talk About The Standard Banner | Genshin Impact

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Outside of the inclusion of Dehya and Tighnari, Genshin Impact's standard banner has not been updated 5 star character and weapon wise ever since it came out. Though we have gotten the Chronicled Wish banner, I wanted to talk about the standard banner and how I feel like it's a heavily neglected part of Genshin's experience.

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I think Birthday Banners would be a great addition with some limitations. It could go something like this:
- Separate from Event Banner pity, but the pity carries over to the next Birthday Banner
- Can only obtain 1 copy of the character
- Lasts for 24h

This would guarantee every characters gets at least 1 rerun every year. Shenhe hasn’t gotten one in more than a year and doesn’t even qualify for the chronicled wish :(

FemboiMuffin
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Tbh all of the banners need at least some kind of rework. The weapon banner is scammy for f2p players and getting a specific 4 star becomes virtually impossible on character banners.

Kikitorin
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Albedo should’ve been added to the standard banner instead of Dehya.

danielferrieri
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As someone who really wants Shenhe and lost 50/50 to mona back in 2023, we really need another chronicled wish banner. And also dendro reactions being meta while not improving cryo or geo at all being a contributing factor in Shenhe never getting a rerun

PuellaMagiMami
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The amount of day 1 systems in genshin that are just starting to show their age is a lot, the proplem hoyo is not even adresing them or consider them an issue

ibrahim
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Yeah, as a newer player you can't help but feel left out because there are certain characters that you have yet to even see on a banner that everyone has.

neonraindrop
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Standard banner really isn't be the only terrible banner in Genshin - all of them are.
Weapon banner is still not separated despite them reworking it in HSR and ZZZ.
Regular banner reruns are inconsistent with some units taking a year to rerun.
And the Chronicled outright never returned after getting featured only once.

vladdyru
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At this point, I dont know if hyv ever gonna change it or even add more qol update. I just hope their competitor(mainly wuwa) gets so much better that they're forced to do better

orang
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I think if at least not free limited pulls every update like hsr, they could give us 5-10 acquaint fates every update so we'd have some way of getting characters/weapons in a less annoying manner on what I consider to be the most untrustworthy banner after the weapon banner

riteshram
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The fact that we’re coming up on 4 years of this game being out and have no Geo rep on the banner when Albedo is literally the best character to be thrown on there is genuinely mind boggling.
I’d love for characters who aren’t the archons to be slapped on the standard banner at some point since it’d make sense for them given how either they’ve had so many reruns or so little that I think it’s time for them to just be on there.

LittleMissFoxy
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If chronicled wished was available always, and constantly rotating life would be better

marmackerel
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I'm more curious wtf even happened to Chronicled Wish and what their plans are for that. That wish type just disappeared after 4.5 and the way how it only appeared once makes it look like it may have been seen as a failure by Hoyoverse and that they won't do it again as we haven't gotten an update on that as well in something like developer diary or a way for developers to communicate to players. I wonder what even happened to those that had pity left in that banner.

With how old this game is, the banner system feels like it's slowly becoming worse even though nothing is changing. But then the idea that nothing is changing is the problem. I'd say the most obvious issue aside from rerun times would be how we're still stuck with the fate point system where you stand to loose twice in a banner before getting a featured weapon whereas HSR had split the weapon banners and the chances are 75/25 instead of 50/50 since the start.

dustinabigan
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In World Flipper, rest in peace, there were the elemental banners from time to time where all characters of a particular element would have their rate up

nhoaxlight
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Babe wake up, Vars uploaded a new Genshin video

pvinkreverie
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Someone at Hoyo saw this video, IMMEDIATELY locked in and now this video aged like a goddamn banana

vee
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One issue with putting too many characters in the standard banner is that getting one specific character would be a matter of pure luck even more so than it is now, so there would need to be some way to target a character.

My recommedation would be to create something a bit like HSR's Herta's Store but for characters, with potentially both 4* and 5* units available to buy, which would remove the bloat from both pools in the banners. The necessary currency should be limited in quantity and not purchasable for real-world money. Also, you could add weapons there as well.

This way completing a few basic teams would be much easier and more F2P-friendly, if you could just choose to buy someone like Sucrose or Sigewinne for in-game currency (I still don't have Sucrose, man). The only problem is that there's essentially no way they ever make limited characters available like this, especially not the really good ones like Kazuha, Xianyun or some of the top DPS characters, so they would likely need to fill the store slowly with brand new characters, one every two or three patches.

And I would add that doing something like this wouldn't necessarily reduce sales, or at least not by a large amount - this way you wouldn't have as many characters to invest into, but nothing's stopping you from investing vertically into your favorite characters or getting new characters that play differently, syergise with different elements of the game or form other team archetypes.

malevolentmoose
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man i cant remember which content creator said cornicle wish would be for each region so i started wishing on it thinking that if i dont get lucky i at least will be closer for the next set of 5 stars. they had better bring that shit back and keep track of pity on it

jdendusauzay
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Hoyo had 48 hours to lock in after this vid drop, great to see they did

squircled
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It would suck a lot if they added older limited 5* to the standard banner for many reasons. Main one being that it would be nearly impossible to get your desired older character. What they should do is 3 banners per half or more things like chronicled wish

sovyenn
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0:55 "... most recent *Emilia* " 🤣

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