I Have Antisocial Personality - (Therapist Reacts)

Dr. Kirk reacts to a video on the Special Books by Special Kids channel in which Joseph discusses his diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder

00:00 I Have Antisocial Personality - (Therapist Reacts)
00:38 Antisocial/psychopathy myths
17:12 Reciprocity & empathy
28:05 Right vs. wrong & trauma
40:09 Support, resentment, & lying
49:25 Closing thoughts

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Trigger Warning: This episode may include topics such as assault, trauma, and discrimination. If necessary, listeners are encouraged to refrain from listening and care for their safety and well-being.

[Vinechicken]

i'm so glad this video found me! i watched the original video sometime ago and since i've known the community of that channel for quite a long a time (they're really supportive people), i decided to read the comments and was surprised by the number of people who were seeing Joseph as an alien like you said. People were "exposing" and "interpreting" his every facial expression and mannerisms (in an extremely negative way of course) as if they were studying a lab rat. i even left a comment about that, trying to remind people about his story from 7th grade and pointing out the fact that they were basically replicating this story and dehumanizing him again. Only to shortly after receive an obnoxious response about how "real people" see the truth past his lies. i didn't care too much about it but it was reassuring to see an authentic analysis of that interview. Your observation about eye contact and laughing made me happy that you actually *saw* Joseph.

[blackswan]

I'm very close to someone with lifelong ASPD - it started as conduct disorder as a young child and progressed. He's been diagnosed by more than one forensic psychologist. The thing is - he masks it well, but won't hide it if asked . He learned early on that there are rules to social interaction and is quite polite and nice to deal with. But he's also an alcoholic, which is when the ASPD is acted out. As long as he stays sober, his cognitive empathy and good common sense allow him to function wrll.

[cuhweenuh]

SBSK is such an amazing channel! Really happy to see Dr. Honda reacting to one of their videos 😁

[knitterscheidt]

I saw this interview with Joseph on Special Books by Special Kids and was very saddened by the story of his childhood. I enjoyed the commentary by a psychologist which provided more insight into Joseph's view of the world and how he functions in it. Let's remember at 19 in many ways he's still a child. I think it was very brave of him to share his story. His intelligence and intellectual capability to be self-aware and understand society are great strengths. Still, anyone who falls in love with him may be in for a bumpy ride.

[raincadeify]

My perception on this guy is he's really enjoying any shock value he can get from this interview. Prior to doing the interview, I'd assume he's been on the channel and seen that the overall theme is empathy, nurturance and acceptance of atypical people, and I think he's displaying some disdain for that concept, the interviewer, and to the larger audience. His whole presentation is one of callousness and superiority.

[aleon]

He makes me uneasy, I think aside from his slow rather circular speech, but not sure what to make of him. I'm on the autism spectrum and my experience with empathy is quite a lot different than Neurotypical people. I really appreciate how Dr Honda analyses this situation.

[mcgoo]

Is it weird that I absolutely love the nuance of psychology? Every time he says something like "but there's a few definitions of that." Or "there's a lot of opinion put into a diagnosis" and I'm over here like YES! Yes please tell me more!

[ashleypearson]

Thank you for this video! My mom was diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder 12 years ago. Right after she got clean and sober. And I think she grew out of it or learned to care abt ppl. Because shes still sober is a chemical dependency counselor and does a lot for us. Shes not very nurturing sometimes shes not very understanding but shes come a long way in caring abt ppl. So thanks for this video I have a better understanding

[carlyp]

At minute 10 I think what he is saying is that he did some bad things to someone he thinks isn't a good person. He's not going to go into detail why he's a bad person. But by saying others around him don't blame him for doing the bad stuff he did, that paints the picture that this guy wasn't a good guy. ...at least that's how I interpreted it

[mistymrning]

I tried watching the original video just a few days ago, but I couldn’t keep going after 5 minutes. I found him to be so smug, condescending, slow talking in a seemingly calculating way… His constant fake smile was off-putting. Maybe this is what people mean when they say psychopathic individuals are trying to be very “charming”? But I found it to be very obviously fake charm, and thus his whole demeanor was unpleasant to me.

Hopefully with Dr Honda‘s insights I’ll be able to get through his interview this time.

[amandajo]

Yay! I love when two channels I watch comment on or react to the other's content!
Special Books by Special Kids is such a great channel. And so is Psychology in Seattle so I'm pumped for this video 😄

[TattedTentacle]

I've been watching your videos since you started discussing the first Love is Blind series and I remember the comment section being SO much different then. People were thankful for your input, they recognized themselves in some people and appreciated a different point of view on their behaviors. In my opinion you offer a kinder, more in depth view into people's behaviors in a time where that kindness and understanding is sometimes hard to find. Now, it seems like people in the comment section are literally doing the opposite of what you were trying to do: they jump to conclusions, make wild generalizations about certain personality disorders and everyone is suddenly an armchair psychiatrist able to diagnose individuals based on a couple of videos. I sometimes wonder if those people actually watch the videos or if they're just reacting to the title. I guess it comes with becoming more popular and "mainstream" but it does make me sad.

[xPrecisionx]

45:05 I'm actually not shocked at all to hear that he took pleasure in videogame cheating. I've played at a very high skill level in several multiplayer games, and cheaters give the impression of a total disconcern for the rules, equality, empathy etc. Some are quite sadisitic and will disaparage their non-cheating competitors as they rob them of their competitive rank.

[inubakablog]

I love SBSK, but some interviews are tough to watch. I guess that's the point though - to see the things society wants to erase. This one was particularly rough because Joseph reminds me so much of my brother that my heart just sank. Even the way they speak, the way they touch their mouth when they are manipulating you with carefully chosen words/expressions. The way they blame everything they do on others or circumstances. When you meet someone like this - practice boundaries, put up protections. I wish I learned that years ago.

[entropy]

WOW! Finally someone who gets it! Some YT psychs say they have worked with pwASPD but still explain it wrong, like they didn't understand anything that goes further than what is written in the DSM!
You really get it and you explain it well and non-judgemental!

[ally]

I’m so excited to see you react to special books by special kids!! Psychology in Seattle, SBSK, and The Soft White Underbelly are the only channels I come back to time and time again

[joellenklemek]

I’ve seen kids and adults make that same comment, that they are skilled at lying and deceiving. But when in reality I and other adults and even children had already easily detected their compulsive lying. Generally they made the statement to me, because they felt safe with me to relish in how proud they are of their supposed secret super power. And when I am with a child or adult who I have a relationship with who lies all the time, I generally change the subject and don’t confront them as a way to cope and move on. But they are never entrusted by me with anything important! Maybe I should start trying to help them realize that I do see their lies and stories.

[cheerleaderofdoom]

My goodness, that antisocial man is a talker. I put him on 2x speed and still wanted him to talk faster

[stellannie]

Not saying he doesn't have aspd, but i'd bear in mind he's describing only a seven year period of behavior, which is comprised of only teenage years.

[whatcolorjunebug]

I wish you had discussed his repetitive use of the same phrases, his physical mannerisms, and his slow speech, and whether or not those could have anything to do with ASPD.