Antisocial personality disorder #shorts

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“They don’t become gentle and kind, they just stop offending people.” 😂😂😂

Wonderer
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people always confuse antisocial and asocial

neens
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On Reddit I said that most narcissist's don't see they have a problem, and I was accused of stigmatizing NPD. It's just the way it is. The lack of awareness is baked into their disorder so it effects their perceptions and self-perceptions to the most extreme degree.

yogarenren
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My ex husband was diagnosed with anti social personality disorder. However, he was over 40 and repeatedly offended people. My daughter called him out on his behaviour and noticed that his behaviour was manipulative and he often used gaslighting and flying monkeys to get his own way. He was cruel for fun. He was actually a narcissist.

samanthahardy
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One needs to remember that this data may be skewed - it may not be that they stop offending people. It could very well be that they just stop getting caught.

beepbopboop
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In my experience, my dad's outward behavior peaked in his 40s, but ever since he's learned to be more deliberate, selective, sneaky, discreet, etc. It seems like what society would consider to be evil has increased substantially - especially into his 60s. It's just that only a select few get to be the people that he harms. From his neighbors' perspectives (mostly all the same people who have known him since he was 16) he's gone from someone they call the police on to someone they trust and do business with.

babiesandbuddies
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I would love if u did a video about what aspd/conduct disorder looks like in teenage girls and adult females. There’s literally no information or vids on this online or YouTube

GSR-ohng
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I'm a retired probation officer and I used to work with an offender who was actually diagnosed with APD. He'd had his first conviction at the age 9. He had 110 convictions including arson with intent to kill, child cruelty, SA & he was a very angry guy who'd destroyed all his relationships. No contact with his kids and no real friends. He was 48 when I started working with him. He only committed 1 minor offence (walking on railways) in the 2 years I'd worked with him, he continued taking heroin & coke but that was the longest he'd ever spent outside of prison since he was 9yo.

marisaJ
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My grandma just ramped it up. Until all her victims/family members died. Now she is alone because we don’t put up with that crap.

benfir
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They do not burn out please
They only get worse with age

DamienEng-uzdi
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I like that you shared an incorrect assumption about antisocial personality disorder, and using your own experience being a subtle way to ease those who had assumed that incorrect definition.

Thrna_
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Darrell Brooks (he drove through a Christmas parade, killing and injuring several) was diagnosed with this. What "slowed him down" was getting multiple life sentences and hundreds of years on top of that.

breezluize
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Unfortunately some don't grow out of it, because it functions well for them in terms of bullying/coercing others to achieve their desires. I'm sure this falls under a different category of behaviour but it at least coincides, anecdotally speaking.

I do genuinely feel bad for people with such disorders; it's not a nice life to constantly be at odds with the world and watch what could be a great life just disintegrate at a certain point of collision.

smash
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No not in my husband’s case. It has gotten worse and he’s also a narcissist.

proverbs
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Yeah, this is what my estranged brother was diagnosed with. It's pretty much just a medical way of describing somebody as evil. You can look at it as a disorder all you want, but if you actually had to live with somebody with ASPD you'd figure out pretty quickly that the symptoms of this disorder add up to that person just being evil.

Edit: Somebody's reply to this post made me think about how, since I only really knew one person with ASPD, I can't ascribe all of his behavior to his disorder, and so it isn't correct for me to say ASPD makes you evil. Maybe my brother is, and maybe he has ASPD, but it was wrong for me to characterize that as a feature of the disorder.

DjeauxSheaux
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I find it hilarious when someone says something like "I'm antisocial I don't like talking to/ being around people"
I just think to myself "I don't think you realize what you're saying"

Pennielen
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I have a cousin who has been invested with her time with a stalking and harassment campaign against me. So when researching the mental disorders for those who like to obsessively likes to stalk; over, and over again, and disregard boundaries on all sides, this (antisocial personality disorder/delusional disorder) is the first personality disorder that came to mind. They truly are trapped in their own fantasy and cannot see or refuses to understand their criminal mindset but still need to be legally held accountable for their behavior.

Scene
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It's sad that those with ASPD are relegated to the "you learn to live with it" category :\

BigBeanBilly
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I’ve often noted that there are people with antisocial tendencies who developed them as a coping mechanism for terrible life events, living in war, or having a childhood/adolescence where they suffered from continuous abuse from a parent or older relative who had violent tendencies themselves, alcoholism, etc.

There was a documentary about this man who was diagnosed with ASPD in his youth, he was constantly in and out of correctional facilities as a teenager, was always caught robbing or doing some illegal activity, dropped out of school, was into gang activity, was in juvie then in a youth mental health facility, etc. Then, they interviewed him when he was in his 40s now and just had a child. He was now a stable guy, devoted father, said that having a kid is the one thing that has helped him the most make tremendous change in his personality (that along with years of therapy since he was in his late 20s). That he would do anything for his safety and well being, including working on aspects about himself that were self harmful and would put his family in danger.

When his kid is now 5 years old, he no longer meets the criteria for ASPD and has turned his life around. Goes to show that people are not “condemned” or “bound for life” to a diagnosis. People are too quick to jump on the bandwagon of “oh, I am a BPD”, “oh, I am ASPD, must mean that is part of my identity or genetic makeup and is unchangeable”, or “I am [X diagnosis] and it will never change”.

That is false. Anyone who has studied psychology or psychiatry can tell you that it doesn’t work that way. Just like it would be inaccurate to say “I am a depression person, that is part of my core identity and is definitely unchangeable”… the same goes for many diagnosis terms. Even though some disorders like personality disorders are known to be harder to treat in some circumstances, and can take longer periods of time of working on them through therapy and treatment to see positive change, there are still numerous records in the scientific literature about people who HAVE recovered successfully from conditions like BPD, ASPD, HPD, NPD, avoidant PD, OCPD, etc. Some clinicians do find personality disorders can be more trickier to treat than other more common disorders like anxiety disorders, and can take a longer period of treatment to see signs of remission… But there are still psychiatrists and psychologists and therapists out there that do have experience and special training in helping people with certain PDs, and there are effective modalities of therapy that are very effective for it, like DBT is for BPD.

In short, nobody is necessarily “X personality disorder” or “X diagnosis” for life. Remission is possible, and I often find it counterproductive when I see people online who do videos or comments about being X or Y label and making it their whole identity online. It is something to be addressed, worked on and helped to approach remission, not venerated as an “identity”. Somebody who would identify himself as black, south asian, Haitian, Italian, etc., that is an unchangeable characteristic of a person which is part of his core identity. Personality disorders are disorders, not “cool labels” or “identities”.

zkcrisyee
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I like the way you break this down. Simple, to the point, easy to comprehend
Many thanks.

katiesimpson