Film Theory: Is Spider Man ACTUALLY Guilty of Murder? (Spiderman No Way Home)

Spoilers for anyone who hasn't seen Spider-Man: No Way Home! The movie opens with Peter Parker dealing with the fallout of Mysterio's big reveal at the end of Spider-Man: Far From Home and his apparent death at the hands of Spider-Man. Flash forward to Matt Murdock as his lawyer saying Peter has nothing to worry about and will likely be found innocent. Not so fast, Daredevil! Maybe you are not as good of a lawyer as you think you are...

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Credits:
Writers: Matthew Patrick and Justin Kuiper
Editors: Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick and Koen Verhagen
Assistant Editor: Caitie Turner (viridianrosette)
Sound Editor: Yosi Berman

[storiesbybenjaminh.m.]

As a self teaching lawyer, I really wish more videos like this exist.

[cqtaylor]

It always bothered me that this MCU's Spider-Man saved so many in New York, in addition to helping save the Universe in End Game, yet folks were more likely to believe Mysterio - a "superhero" in Venice who was around for about two weeks.

[bobalegend]

If Matt Murdock wasn't a good lawyer what other explanation could there be for catching a brick hurdling to Peter's face

[elhopper]

One thing that really stuck out to me was when Matt said “you may not be guilty in a court of law but you still have the court of public opinion to deal with.” It really shows in the beginning of the movie and is especially meaningful in todays day and age

[mr.moviemafia]

The most important line Matt says is that “there is still the court of public opinion” and THAT’S Peter’s main struggle. It’s not that HE doesn’t get into M.I.T., it’s that MJ and Ned don’t get it by association. Regardless of legal guilt, his reputation is tarnished

[jayb]

The charges being dropped didn't seem particularly strange or improbable to me. As explained in this video, there was never any solid evidence. I don't think that Beck ever expected Peter to face legal consequences, but he knew that the accusation and Peter's identity being made public would be enough to effectively ruin his life.

[MontclairBear]

the brick can confirm: Matt Murdock is a REALLY good lawyer

[zobiah]

Fun Fact: Tony does actually bring Tom Holland in Civil War legally; in Far From Home, we see his passport, which is dated 2 days before Civil War released to theaters. Therefore, Tony expedited the Passport process to bring Peter quickly

[LoganWH]

Not only is all of Mysterio’s “evidence” completely inadmissible, but even if the EDITH program doesn’t keep logs of users and orders, which seems unlikely, there should be TONS of *counter* evidence proving Quentin Beck was a grifter and the real villain. For one thing, Quentin Beck, if that’s even his real name, was a former Stark employee, so Happy should’ve been able to pull up his employee file and show the world Beck was a hologram technician fired for being unstable, not an interdimensional soldier. For another, Flash Thomson was able to livestream the entire London attack, so there should be ample security footage showing the drones emerging from Mysterio’s weather monster. Not to mention that someone would’ve had to recover Mysterio’s body, and would’ve found that he wasn’t wearing the futuristic supersuit he was shown wearing in his dying video, but rather a suit covered in AR patches and hologram projectors.

[Whispurer]

Finding Mysterio's body in a mocap suit would also probably be a massive red flag that literally none of his story was valid and would instill mistrust that he was killed by Peter as well.

[jonasquinn]

A few thoughts I had:

1) Even if you were to argue that Peter was breaking our vigilantism laws, which he may not have been, he pretty clearly wasn’t breaking the MCU’s vigilantism laws since they take that far less seriously and he is a recognised Avenger

2) If EDITH keeps a record of which user is logged in and give which orders that’s even more evidence to clear Peter

3) I don’t think that the DODC was acting as a part of some convoluted Stark cover up, especially because they do launch a major investigation into Stark Industries, it’s more likely in my opinion that with the rising number of superhero incidents and especially the signing of the Sokovia Accords there would need to be a government agency specifically for monitoring and regulating them and the DODC is the obvious choice for that because it’s already their area of expertise

[KatoChaotix]

Fun Fact: We don't see the judicial process for Peter in No Way Home because the scene got cut for time. It would have added 20 more minutes to the movie.

[Mukation]

Murdock didn't say he got Peter off, he said he doesn't think the charges are going to stick. (since there really is no evidence of him killing Mysterio). Just Mysterio CLAIMING that Spider-man is a criminal.

[donkeydefense]

Matt is a good lawyer in terms of when he is actually being the lawyer. His problems were not being there for his clients lol

[vash]

Wasn't shield aware/backing this effort, even if nick was replaced, shield was 100% involved with the fight and could easily prove that Mystiro was a bad actor, and not who they first thought he was. This all backs Peter's side.

[noahalden]

In Homecoming, Peter's suit records everything he sees. It wouldn't be a far stretch for this to still be included in his other suit since it helped him in Homecoming. Suit footage shows what really happened - case closed

[zachtemoro]

Another thing to consider is that Spiderman is an Avenger, which also means he is susceptible to the Sokovia Accords. This means two things, 1) Aunt May is completely innocent and no charges can be filed against her considering that, as an Avenger, Peter’s actions are not controlled by May but rather the government, and 2) Peter himself is both protected and liable to the Sokovia Accords. Quinten Beck attacked London, and the Drones posed a serious threat to the safety and well being of the people there. Spiderman is there because Shield asked him to. Whether or not he wanted to save everyone there is now completely irrelevant as an organization/body of a government deployed him there. New York would not have the jurisdiction, or even the US government, can not charge him for completing the mission he was assigned to do (ie find the culprit behind the attacks and subdue him in any way, shape, or form)

Edit (because y’all don’t understand):
1)Peter is an Avenger, plain and simple. Stark gave him his suit, he was there to fight Thanos and in the same movie, Tony says he’s an Avenger.

2) May is still innocent no matter what. Peter is not the average human and what could be “Harmful” to someone else, is not harmful to Peter. He can lift literal tons that would usually crush a person, and he has way more endurance.

3) “Peter is a minor and can’t legally sign contracts” would be true except Tony, Happy, and May are all guardians of Peter. “But they didn’t say that in the movie so they can’t be his legal guardians”! Says who? Both Happy and Tony look after him and make sure his well being is safe, Tony funds all of Peter’s tech, and he gave Peter Edith (ie entrusting him with Stark assets). Just because its off screen, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, especially with how much supervision and care he was provided with Stark and Happy

[thelgiver]

Matpat: Matt Murdock didn't have to do anything to get the charges dropped.

Also Matpat: Thoroughly explains exactly how Matt would have debunked the charges.

[SMERE]

"Spiderman gets off pretty easily"
Also Spiderman losing everyone he loves:

[monokumasussy]

I gotta say, this movie portrayed so many things perfectly. The way Peter was sort of dazed after his identity came out, that crazy scene where his spider sense went off was even crazier to see in the theater. This movie is incredible!