Film Theory: Spider Man Saved NO ONE (3 Spider Man No Way Home Theories)

There is a LOT to cover about Spider-Man: No Way Home! So much, in fact, that we are going to be talking about three theories today. Yes, this is another quick fire round of theories. Get your web slingers ready, Theorists! We are going to tackle all the answers to explain the mysteries of Spider-Man: No Way Home! (Or, you know, three of them!)

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Credits:
Writers: Matthew Patrick
Editors: Danial "BanditRants" Keristoufi, Koen Verhagen, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
Assistant Editor: Caitie Turner (viridianrosette)
Sound Editor: Yosi Berman

[michaelgrey]

I don't necessarily think it would be unethical to force a cure onto Green Goblin. The Green Goblin is not Peter's patient. Norman is. And Norman definitely wants to be cured.

[abominable]

This movie was literally something out of my greatest dreams, and yet it was still even better than I could've imagined. Willem Dafoe was astounding in this movie

[Goat-on-a-Stick]

If they were just seconds from dying, it was pretty much near impossible for them to convince their spiderman that they've changed without sounding like a desperation ploy.

[jessiec]

Didn't Spiderman appear at a function that Aunt Mae's charity was putting on during the second film? My memory is a little fuzzy but I'm pretty sure that happened near the beginning. That would explain how Happy and Mae met "through Spiderman". Neither of them would remember knowing Peter, but both of them would remember having a professional relationship with Spiderman and meeting each other at that fundraiser.

[luckyluke]

If you go by how the spell works in the comics, then everything makes sense. In the comics, the spell isn't a one time erase, but rather a permanent block. In the comics, when somebody is reminded of something that was wiped, the spell blocks them from re-learning it. So based on the comics, Mysterio's footage would still exist but if anybody watched it again, the spell would block their brain from actually retaining the information so after re-watching any footage that connects peter to spider-man, they would just immediately forget it again. That's why MJ still has her necklace and peter can get an apartment, because nothing physical has changed, people are just now brainwashed into being incapable of being able to remember blocked memories.

[TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

The saddest news is the fact that everything Sony related won't be connected to the MCU as you've said. They just teased us to mess with our feelings.

[Peshy_]

Can’t wait for the horror movie spin off: “ Spiderman: *I’m in your home* “

[isaiaharmour]

To be fair, Peter isn't the reason they got into MIT. He's the reason they may have gotten BACK into MIT after they were rejected because they knew him. He never existed, leaving it to reason that they got in the first place.

[TheStartrek]

Actually, the Dock Oc point fixes one of my biggest problems with the movie Doctor Octopus is from, that being why he had to drown himself with the machine. The answer is, because he knows his ability to control his arms is temporary and if he doesn't drown himself he will revert to a villan eventually. Now he doesn't have to drown himself with his machine.

[davidwallace]

Well to be fair, the MIT part could be explained by saying they would’ve gotten into MIT to begin with. The main reason they didn’t was because of the reputation of Peter, not necessarily that they had bad grades. So that one isn’t necessarily Peter’s doing.

I agree with everything else though

[brianwynn]

One thing that was left out was the look on MJ's face AFTER Peter leaves the coffee shop when he stops himself from bringing up any memories he had written down. You see her get that look on her face as though she DOES recognize him but not sure WHERE FROM.

We all know that type of expression: the "I KNOW them from SOMEWHERE, I just can't remember where." Or that "I've seen their face BEFORE, but WHERE?!?" look. So there IS something that the new spell DIDN'T entirely remove. Ned never physically SAW Peter so his memory hasn't been jogged yet. But MJ's HAS to some small degree.

[fictionalspirit]

Just pointing this out here but it was always my personal headcanon that when Doc Ock said "I will not die a monster" he decided to sacrifice himself to plunge the Fusion Reactor into the river with him along with it since he knew he would lose himself to the tentacles again so if he's cured he'll just plunge it in there WITH the help of Spider Man and escape to live another day.

[MandatoryFruit]

Actually, I think the Vulture not knowing Peter's identity probably works out better for us. Originally Vulture wasn't willing to give out Peter's identity. Not only because Peter saved both his and Liz's lives, but also because Liz was affiliated with Peter, which could potentially lead to villains trying to hurt Peter through Liz.

But now, all Vulture knows is that Spider-Man put him in prison, and ruined the life of his family. If anything, Vulture has *even more* incentive to take out Spider-Man than he ever did before. No knowledge of Spider-Man's identity = no threat to Liz. No threat to Liz = no reason not to form the Sinister Six and take Spidey out.

[shinobiqueenv]

My only criticism on this theory is that he helped them get into MIT. That was only AFTER they were denied due to "recent events" involving their close friend, and said relationship. So if anything him being wiped would just, by default, give them better chances.

[TheCyberKid]

Funnily enough, Spider-Man could have avoided this by just telling Dr. Strange to make the world forget the NEWS REPORT AND VIDEO, as opposed to making them forget SPIDER-MAN HIMSELF.

[MannyloAnimeSquad]

Why doesn't Peter's spell affect the other spiderman as well to where people in their universe forget about them too?

[brohiddlesby]

With the whole “saving the villains is futile” point…this is admittedly a flimsy counter argument, but the best way around that is to say the villains after the end of No Way Home actually become time variants of their prime counterparts, essentially just creating an alternate timeline within their respective movies.

[misty_redquill]

I think it’s possible that Otto survived after being returned to his timeline. I always interpreted the ending of Spider-Man 2 as Otto choosing to die with his machine, since we know that he was having thoughts of suicide before the arms convinced him to rebuild. Without the arms influence, he would have a clear enough head to get himself out of there before he gets dragged under, saving himself.

[Indecisive_Individual]

The real question is, what about the other spidermen? Are they forgotten too? Peter's wish was for everyone who knows Peter Parker to forget about him. But he's not the only Peter...?

[mistarat]

If I remember correctly, when we first see the box, Doctor Strange talks about how he contained the spell, but "a few of them slipped through." This could also explain the villain thing, conveniently the villains and Spider-Men made it through but no one else.