Can You Lose Your Salvation?

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It seems like there are a lot of questions about Christianity we’re not supposed to ask—at least not in church. Author, pastor, and talk-show host, Dr. Andrew Farley is here to answer some tough biblical questions. He grounds his answers in Scripture and offers a radical new outlook on the nature of God and His boundless love for you. And there's one issue we differ on, too, which creates (hopefully) an helpful dialogue.

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Tears are streaming down my face hearing Dr. Farley lay out the Goodness, Faithfulness, Grace, and Mercy of God through Jesus so succinctly. What a beautiful reminder! Thank you for this Q&A!

becajo

The same chapter, Hebrews 10, that says “For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified, ” also says “Let’s hold firmly to the confession of our hope without wavering, ” and “For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and THE FURY OF A FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES.” This shows that it’s possible for someone who once enjoyed a relationship with Christ to not maintain a confession of faith in Him or one who persists in a lifestyle of sin the result of which is a terrifying expectation of judgment and fire. Let’s not take one verse out of Hebrews 10 at the exclusion of the others.

tompeers

Thank you Sean for having Pastor Andrew on your show. I have been listening to his radio show and sermons using the Bible questions site as well.

donnac

Absolutely love this…had me in tears…thank you so much for this video and thank you to Andrew for his eloquent and insightful words❤️🙏

Elements

Wow one of the best messages I have ever heard on some tough topics.

affordabledesertliving

A good short book on this very topic is Run to Win the Prize by Tom Schreiner. 😊

philtheo

I think with the 3rd question of once saved always saved you have not adequately addressed the very real and increasingly frequent issue of people ceasing to believe in God and Christ and of ceasing to trust in any saving work of Christ upon the cross and in his resurrection from the dead. I think you have been very selective in the references you chose to support your case. You did not deal with the prophecy of Jesus that the love of many would grow cold, with the repeated clear warnings in the letter to the Hebrews, or with Paul's own heartbreaking experience of former colleagues abandoning the faith.

humejephcott

With respect to whether you can lose your salvation, the question comes down to: can a person ONCE believe with saving faith and THEN AT SOME POINT LATER not believe...? Because if that is possible, then you are faced with: is a person still saved even if they no longer are putting faith in Christ? Are they saved even if they reject and renounce him, and are self proclaimed atheists or now worship a different god? A muslim, for example, could renounce Islam and become a christian. Is it possible a christian could do the same? And is he still saved even if he now worships someone other than Yahweh? If someone does not address those questions, I don't see how they are really engaging the question in a way that would resolve anything.

rickjelley

Many of Dr. Farley’s comments are extremely simplistic and one sided. I will respond to only 2 points: 1) he attempts to reconcile James and Paul on faith and works. In Farley’s view works are valid because the Gospel requires a response. I would suggest that much more is implied by the connection of faith and works. James is dealing essentially with the issue of antinomianism; that faith is void of works. Instead of separating faith and works James says that biblical faith actually works; that it by its essential nature works in an active way. I once heard a Baptist minister state that it is faith plus nothing that saves. The implication of his statement is that there is no necessary connection between faith and works. Biblically, however, there is an absolute connection as faith will always express itself in works. Works are the essential evidence of faith.

Paul speaks of being saved only by faith, not of works. Paul is essentially speaking of a different context in which works are based solely in one’s self which are not an expression or work of faith. The source of the works is the essential issue. If not based in faith, works can never save. However, while our works do not save us, if there are no works then we do not have saving faith.

2) Farley somewhat dismisses any Arminian perspective that it is possible to lose one’s salvation. He certainly takes the high intellectual ground in his justification for his conclusion that a believer can’t lose their salvation. I will not go into length here but Farley doesn’t even look at a single passage which may suggest that salvation can be lost or forfeited. It would seem that to be consistent if one can freely choose salvation they can also freely reject it. At least the hyper Calvinist is consistent as all are chosen and therefore don’t really have freedom to either choose or reject salvation.

I think Sean you shouldn’t just bring onto your show a self proclaimed expert who pushes only one view and who doesn’t fairly present alternative biblical perspectives. What you have done Sean is to present in a rather smug way what a truly biblical perspective is. I didn’t agree with much of what Farley was saying. Disappointing, I think.

Dr_Rod

Our work is the living out of our Faith, Faith in action.

YouTubeCertified

Thanks for sharing 🙏🏿
His grace and mercy be upon you all and your loved ones 🕊️🥛🍯

majorphenom

Words are a result of faith. What you believe comes out in what you do, and what you do demonstrates what you believe.

BitesizeBibleBlog

This was excellent. I love how Paul shares the gospel with unbelievers in Acts 17:22-32.

Terri-e

1:46 - on the baptism question what about 1 Peter 3:20-21 where Peter compares Noah’s family being saved through water to baptism and then he says “that now saves you also”?

WisdomFromGodsWord

Been enjoying some of Andrew’s content lately. Read two of his books. Great seeing him on here!

JonClash

In response to question #3… That which cannot be gained by moral perfection cannot be lost by moral imperfection— Michael Heiser… Consider Romans 5:6-8 & 1 John 2:19…

jimfarnell

Although I like Dr. Farley and think he would answer more thoroughly with more time, but his baptism answer was not sufficient. Paul “not baptizing” is not the same as baptism not required. Saying “I did not come to baptize” does not nullify baptism. I agree with him theologically but I think it’s a bad argument.

jay

Faith brings about works. I do believe they go hand in hand and its not one or the other. And its the small works that are noticed. Honesty, kindness, love, mercy, ect. All things that are free and available to all to utilize.

DanielRyanScott

Thanks for the sharing. God bless you both Pastor Andrew and Sean!

phloriaernas

Re baptism question - The thief on the cross example doesn’t hold water. (Pun intended!) Christ had not yet died and risen again.
So what was the thief to be baptized for or into? (See Colossians 2:12). He makes no mention of Christ during his ascension commanding the apostles to “Go and make disciples of all nations baptizing them... “(Matthew 28). It’s not either/or. It’s both/and. Jesus commanded it. Are we not called to follow Jesus’ commands? Paul was addressing a unique situation with the Corinthians when he spoke of not being there to baptize. He was pointing out it’s not ONLY about baptism because apparently that’s what the Corinthians were focusing on. Paul was reminding them that the focus of the gospel is the cross. But he never said baptism wasn’t necessary. That’s reading something into it that’s not there.
Every example of salvation written about in Acts of the Apostles involves water immersion. Even after Cornelius received Holy Spirit he was still baptized. He wasn’t told it’s not necessary. This is reinforced in other letters of the NT.

michaelthompson

Can You Lose Your Salvation?