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[joshuakohlmann]

'Start with the presupposition that it's true...' and these people dare to lecture us on science?

[williammorris]

It is not philosophy it is the nature of man. The natural man is spiritually dead in sin. Jesus said “no one can come to me unless the father who sent me draws him and I will raise him up at the last day”
Paul said in Ephesians “ but you were dead in your sins and trespasses in which you formally walked”

[hansdemos]

Mr. Smith says: _" And if you don't begin with the belief that God's Word is true, you may not end up with believing it either."_
That is one of the clearest expressions of the irrationality, the ridiculousness, and the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of presuppositionalist Christianity ever uttered.

[Glennn]

“Religion Poisons Everything” - Christopher Hitchens

[CaptainFantastic]

So you start with the conclusion and work your way backwards? That’s not how logic works… which I fine I guess because like all religions Christianity is a faith based belief system

[Truth]

What was God thinking about in Ezekiel 23:20

[johnmurphy]

AIG has NOTHING to say but it keeps on saying it.

[BryanKlein]

Silly nonsense... gullible people fall for the weakest ideas.

[robertjimenez]

Wait, it says all scripture. This means all religion scripture as well as all the scriptures that was left out of the cannon. Because when this was written the New Testament scriptures did not exist. So it refers to what they had which was the Old Testament, all scriptures of other religions, or this is just a statement with no value. In no place it says future selected scriptures.

[bonsaibean]

Until you can prove that ANY god actually exists, assuming that it inspired the bible seems a bit silly. FIRST - Prove that ANY god is real THEN - Prove it does the stuff you claim.

[MUON]

So since God made me grow up in an atheist environment, it's really God's fault that I'm an atheist, not mine. So will God forgive me then?

[fordprefect]

Please provide evidence for any bible story

[aidanya]

Part 1: A circulair argument is a logical fallacy, not a scientific one. Logic doesn't selfcorrect if you make a logical mistake. You will just finish with a wrong conclusion.
Science doesn't work like that. If you start with a wrong hypothesis in science it will fail. If you start with a correct hypothesis is will work. The real world isn't effected by you doing science wrong.

Part 2: Slavery legal 1000 years. To deny christians practiced slavery is to simultaneously deny they abolished it. How can you abolish something you don't do. So make your choice.

But that is ridiculous. Hundreds of thousands of slaves worked under christian owners all over the world. Your scripture might be vague on it. That doesn't mean christians didn't do and used to bible to defend their practices.

If you wanna do the no true Scotsman fallacy and claim that those are not "real" Christians. Ok, but than your religion is reduced to a itsy bitsy tiny fraction of the population and you cannot claim the achievements by those people for Christianity either.
But if you get to rule out those christians, i get to rule out all those atheistic dictators as no "real" atheists.

Part 3: Held prisoner for 50 years. I was clearly referring to Christianity not Christ.

Part 4: My country....
No true scotsman again (see part 2).
You cant both reject those people as christian but at the same time claim their achievements for Christianity.

Part 5: Argument from personal incredulity.
Just because you don't understand how morality works outside a theistic framework does not mean it is impossible or that morality is arbitrary.

Part 6: "If your god exists, he isn't very competent."
Appeal to authority.

Last sentance: "Pls accept the best results for all humanity; receive Christ."
Do you care about what is most comfortable or what is true? I care about what is true.

[dmcfarland]

Fun fact: Many atheists began at an early age, believing the bible is the actual word of god. Reading the bible, a bit of critical thinking, and lack of evidence remedies that in many cases.

[ramonortiz]

Yes! This was the direct method the ANCIENT HEBREWS employed when they put forth the conception of both earth and cosmology i.e. a spread out and FIXED earth on PILLARS with firmament overhead to seperate the WATERS above the firmament from the WATERS below the FIRMAMENT!!

[basp-efjx]

Sufficient evidence? Yep, that's the thing.

[danielfryland]

Ah yes, the classic argument for god's existence: Assume that god exists, therefore god exists.

Similarly, here's my proof that I am god: Assume that I am god, therefore, I am god. Now go build a temple to me and give me your money.

[TMPreRaff]

I’ve never heard such a string of endless word-salad, spoken as if it wasn’t a load of hogwash.

[MrWeezer]

Just because your bible sez so don't mean it's true.

[salvationzone]

Thought I'd get your take on the following that I'll post here for any atheist's that may come here after the rapture to find out what just happened.

Anyone here proficient in calculating statistical odds of many predicted things occurring far in the future by random chance thousands of years before they happen. Let's say there’s a book written thousands of years ago that has the ability to predict the future with 100% accuracy. Let's say this book gave and continues to give hundreds of predictions in the distant past (1000’s of years ago) and that they came true and are coming true even today, perfectly as foretold. Let's also say that this same book has predicted over 100 verifiable prophecies all within the time of when Israel became a nation again up to today. This book predicted the exact day Israel would become a nation again, on May 14th 1948. This particular prediction was given thousands of years ago, only to happen within our generation, 2000 years from 30AD and on the exact day mind you that it was predicted. How can this be? Seems almost like a miracle.

Historically, the person everyone here is arguing about, called Jesus, was killed on a cross in 30AD. According to this book a 1000 yrs are as a day and a day are as a 1000 yrs to this Jesus fellow who claims to be God almighty in the flesh. This book claims that Jesus will return after 2 days of him dying on the cross, (or 2000 yrs.) If we take 30AD and add 2000 yrs we come to the year 2030. So if this is true and the believers in this book are promised to not experience the last 7 years of that time period then we minus those 7 yrs from 2030 bringing us to 2023.

The reason I bring all this up is because I've done some research and I've found an interesting series of over 100 of these predictions that have come true since Israel became a nation again just like this book said they would. It's quite remarkable really. Another thing. Hear me out because here is but a brief outline of some interesting series of events that are coming up in the next couple days, weeks and months that this book talks about, happening as we near the year 2030 that I just explained about. As many here are professed atheist's, I'm not sure you'll understand the verbiage used but believe me, all the words used here have meaning and all were predicted to be used in the way they are occurring in the world today.

Bear in mind I’m just thinking out loud and this is only 3 or 4 out of over 100+. So here it goes.

The month of June was world pride month and as the saying goes, “pride comes before the FALL, ” Lol.. Then in July we see this festival called The Feast of New Wine occurring on or around 7-26-2023.

Then in August the 5 BRICS nations (clay nations mixed with iron?) (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) are holding a meeting and are planning to add 5 more to their group for a total of 10 kings or power blocks of gold currency backed nations which will not be good for the dollar nor will it for the whole world when the MOB is implemented. It seems very plausible the 5 BRICS nations would seek to gain more strength and stability by adding 5 more nations if the world is undergoing tribulation and mass disasters due to the fact that millions of people have suddenly just vanished off the Earth and they are trying desperately to bring stability back to the Earth. Then wouldn't you know it in September the UN is sponsoring the SDG (Sustainable development Goals) where they are focusing on making this pre-existing agreement that was started back in 2015, with the MANY nations of the world (Israel being one of them) STRONGER with an end date pointing to the famous "Agenda 2030." This is 7 YEARS away. This 7 year time frame is a strange time frame the book makes very clear to look out for. Also in September the UN is sponsoring and declaring the 21st as the International Day of Peace (IDP) = peace and safety. 1 Thess 5:3. Another thing. During this September covenant confirming meeting, they are tying all this to a planned vaccine social credit score financial system as a means of monitoring and controlling the buying and selling based on your vaccine status (passport) there by establishing your credit score. MARC OF THE BEAST, much, hello! Just such a system could possibly come from Bill Gates who owns the patent to just such a system. The number of the patent is 060606 = 666, mark of the beast.

Why is Agenda 2030 so significant to the nations? I believe it's because satan knows the real calendar and knows that 2030 is exactly 2000 years (2 days Hosea 6:2) from 30 AD when Jesus went to the cross.

It seems to me the second coming of Christ has to be the year of 2030 because if we go back exactly 2 days "Hosea 6:2" (or 2000 years, 2 Peter 3:8) in God's sight we come to the year Jesus went to the cross of 30 AD. We know this to be true and accurate because 40 years (which is a time of testing throughout the bible) later in 70 AD God saw that the Jews finally rejected Jesus as their messiah, so he had Titus and his army legions destroy Jerusalem and the second temple and bring about the diaspora. God's precise timing: 30 + 40 = 70. Even secular history says that Titus and his armies destroyed the temple in 70 AD which is a good starting point to calculate all these things.

70 AD is key in history when it comes to calculating to 2030. 70 AD - 40 (time of testing) = 30 AD. 30 AD + 2000 yrs (2 days to God) = 2030. 2030 - 7 yrs=2023