Let’s talk headship: A Conversation (Part One)

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Let’s be clear— headship and dominance are not the same thing. Christ-like headship requires two things that may be difficult for some husbands: sacrifice and vulnerability. We chat about what real headship is, what it isn’t, and why it can be scary.

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I think the biggest issue for men is summary is to submit themselves to Christ first. If you can't submit to Christ's headship how are you going to lead your wife? Through a man's unsubmissive behavior, he desires Christs headship which is above his own. When we look at Christ's leadership, like Preston was saying, He submitted his authority and power out of love for us. So if you're a guy, learn how to submit to Christ, learn the characteristics of Christs leadership in your life, submit your authority and power out of love for your wife, and lead from that posture.

aaronbulleman
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Please don’t ever think this podcast isn’t doing WORK because it 100% is. Jackie can speak about the things in my heart so well and Preston helps me see the ways that marriage is hard for my husband. Can’t thank y’all enough ❤ y’all are my therapist(s) 😂

jessicasteel
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I’m glad I have access to this while single. Thank you guys so much for this!!. God bless y’all

amaboateng
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“Most of us are regular faced” 😂🤣😂 I felt that!

ashleyjohnson
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Im so happy I'm.not a man because being the Head is a huge responsibility. Your wife and kids life is literally in their hands, Dominance/Headship is actually a humble role.

dashelledisna
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This is why it is SO IMPORTANT to be careful who you marry. You have to make sure that you talk about as much as humanly possible regarding a wide variety of issues that you are going to encounter over the next 50 years.

kengy
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“Your sins are in the sea of forgiveness… but I swim in them some times.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂

UnderEveryBookAndCranny
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Lol I’m with Jackie but I wouldn’t say aggressive. I like assertiveness. Let me know what it is and stand in it! Say it with your whole chest…ya know. I love y’all talks, it feeds my soul.

FlaLovely
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Preston, Jackie's look is that "That's my man!" look. 😆

mimieno
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This is where we make the distinction between aggressive and assertive. I like an assertive man when leading me!!

tonimariebeautifulluv
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“It’s exhausting to always have our sins put before us. Relaxing and becoming a safer space leads to trust”

Not the exact quote but this is so real and can be applied to all of our relationships with others.

bonkgiartist
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You really have to be “whole enough” and healed enough, confident in the lord and your identity enough… to trust and submit to the lords model of submission as a woman, and proper headship as the man. Ultimately the Holy Spirit gone check both to keep them in their perspective roles. Humility is key. Excellent conversation as always 😊

alishaisblessed
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Submission is one thing I struggled real hard with. At first you couldn’t tell me nothing, I never wanted to submit but i prayed to God to soften my heart. I’m still learning to put it in a practical sense

winnienyameba
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Great convo! My husband is the leader but I handle certain things. We consult each other before making big decisions but if we disagree on something and can’t compromise (which is rare) he makes the final decision. He makes it easier to submit because he is an awesome husband. I say EASIER not easy because the sinful side of me wants to run the show at all times lol

kay
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Why am I smiling for 30 minutes like a full blown idiot? The Perrys are bomb. Mat God bless your home.

enihannim
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So good. This is a convo to have before marriage. So much strife would not exist. Whew.

Grateful my husband and I figured it out over time. But that was 5 years in! This topic is such a perspective changer.

esenosakhare
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Respect to Preston 👏🏾. Your voice needs to be heard EVERYWHERE. homes, businesses, Hollywood. May God open the necessary doors.

kisshergoodbye
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“Being humble enough to meet them where they are.” That’s good Preston! 👏🏾 I’m learning to not force my husband to talk when I’m ready but when he’s ready. Thank you both for sharing this

Nay.Harris
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I grew up without a father and didn’t see healthy, affirming examples of manhood until I became an adult, which is pretty recent. I watched the lives of the most important women in my life be made worse on every level from submitting to faulty men. My biggest gripe when it comes down to this convo is that not much grace & reasoning are given to women who don’t want to submit or do want to, but have perspectives similar to mine. I don’t want to lose my identity in marriage and I fear submitting to the wrong man. I appreciate the way y’all framed this convo & I look forward to part 2!

lj
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I love ya'll's theological wrestling as much as I love the free flowing banter! Thank you for blessing us <3

sydneydanielle