Why was 1 Enoch removed from the Bible?

[ExistentialRegret]

"That'd be bananas" absolutely broke me, sir. I laughed so damned loud.

[Cornelius]

I still don’t grasp historically why those who determined canon left some books out because of inconsistencies (like 1 Enoch) but kept some books in despite apparent inconsistencies — were they just unbothered by that tension?

[bryanbrooks]

If Enoch was Nora’s great grandfather, I don’t think it would be that difficult for those scriptures to have survived, if they were on the Ark with Noah.

[energybasics]

The world being controlled by a few powerful people doesn't seem idiotic. There used to be a few kings "controlling" large parts of the world. Now it's a few corporations. Still that's a small amount of powerful people compared to all of humanity.

[RichBoy-lxsx]

The Nt falsely attributes the book to Enoch. And even quotes it BY NAME. So either Enoch is "Gods word" or the Nt is also not "Gods word"

Enoch, the seventh from Adam" is quoted in Jude 1:14–15:

And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convict all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him..

[ufpride]

It’s hard for me to buy the church’s excuse of “internal conflicts and implausibility this text survived the flood” because many of the books in the Bible have “internal contradictions” and it would be “historically implausible” for any text before the destruction of Israel, Judah, and all their temples to have survived

Every excuse the church can give why they left certain books out you can apply to any of the 66 books they did decide to deem “the word of God” and “authoritative”

[redridinghood]

“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” (Deut. 4:2}

[dragonhawkeclouse]

I need to look up what the internal inconsistencies are

[Imthrashsfu]

What makes some of the fantastical claims in the Old Testament more historical and less fan fiction than those in the Book of Enoch?

[OpenBiolabsGuy]

1 Enoch got removed for internal inconsistencies, but the gospels weren’t checked for consistency, or even a lack of contradiction, in the account of the resurrection of Jesus between each other. 💀

[MetalAngel]

Actually, the Book of Enoch was 'omitted' from the biblical canon when scholars were discerning whether it should be included.

[EricMcLuen]

The Book of Enoch might not be well known today but it was known by early church fathers, and may have been popular with the populace. Its influence can be seen in the traditional stories of a war in heaven and fallen angels.

[wrivers]

Sorry Dan, but using the words implausible and idiotic doesn't really help to prove your point. You're really just saying if it's not in the bible it's stupid and then making fun of it. The bible was created to unify religion to bring a culture together. People have been changing the bible and religion for many years. A lot of what is in the first book of Enoch does synchronize with the Bible, but seems to have more detail. Even Jesus himself make a positive reference to Enoch in the New Testament, suggesting that he studied it as teachings.

[mustbestopped]

How can the book of Enoch be "fanfiction" as you said, but the old testament can't?
Also, saying the book of Enoch has a lot of contradictions, then oh boy.... I dunno what to tell you... the old and new testaments are full of contradictions and not just from wrong translations.

[agubellini]

I've read that possibly the Sanhedrin removed Enoch 1 out of their authoritative text(s) shortly after Jesus' death due to the prophesies they thought pointed to him, but that may/may not be true. I just don't see how in the NT Jude 1:14-15 quotes Enoch 2:1 without Enoch being authoritative text. I'm also curious about Esdras 1 and 2. Esdras being part of the Septuagint it seems to fit well with OT writings.

[johngatewood]

Let's not gloss over the fact that the Ethiopian Orthodox Christians were black people. And were ignored by the "northern" Christians.

[bbbarham]

Would love to see a video clearly explaining the history of Christian “canon” and how it got where it is.

[propitiated]

I think you described perfectly exactly why Enoch was not accepted, the bias of "it's fanfiction" just the seemingly implausibility of the story to your and other's mind.

[PaintedHoundie]

Second Temple Judaism had a lot of developing traditions that I'd call Enochic Judaism that ended up informing Christianity. 1 Enoch was a little bold with the content but those traditions still persisted even in the Orthodoxy.

[xenospawn]

The book of enoch proves that the earth is a sphere before science did.