Grand Seiko vs. Omega (A Debate).

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Grand Seiko has been full steam ahead for a while now. They go above in beyond in any way they can and the watch industry has CERTAINLY noticed. However, are their tactics effective enough to start to take some market share from Omega? It may seem totally unlikely and maybe even a dumb topic but HEY! We are a couple of dumb guys having some dumb fun! So what happens when you put up a Speedmaster vs. a Snowflake?

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[andrewdavid]

Grand Seiko can beat Omega on two very important areas, accuracy and innovation. Spring drive is one of the greatest innovations in horology and it's accuracy is second to none.

[elizabethsampat]

Everything else aside: I've been to almost every major watch boutique in London and the level of attention, luxury, and service in the GS boutique in comparison to everything else was remarkable. I own an Omega, but the experience of just BROWSING at the GS boutique makes me want to buy that as my next watch.

[soaringstone]

Absolutely love your videos, especially these involving debate of two notable brands - an active discussion about popular icons in Omega and Grand Seiko is great, and I appreciate points on both sides of the table 👍

[max.loves.watches]

I've tried hard to love GS and am completely open-minded to them, but like many others here the aesthetics of their watches just don't appeal to me. And I completely respect the quality of their watches - I'm just waiting for them to take that craftsmanship and produce a model that I can't resist! Omega, on the other hand, has many references I'd love to own.

[LectioDivina]

Someone once said, buy a Rolex to impress others, buy a Grand Seiko to impress yourself...enough said.

[MrKeaneNg]

Good or bad, grand Seiko is like the Lexus of watches. They showed they can compete with the swiss but there’s always something small missing when it comes to a wearing/driving experience.

I’ve owned both brands and I always come up with the same, slightly disappointed feeling after trying so hard to love it. If I had to choose it’s omega

[gabrielvalle]

Grand Seiko’s quality to price ratio is really top notch. And they retain their value extremely well.

[loganoftherockies]

GS and Omega are my favorite two brands, and own both. I'd take a slightly different tack and say it's apples and oranges, both having their place and complementing each other extraordinarily in a collection. GS makes astounding dress watches and dressy GADAs that are just head and shoulders above anything this side of holy trinity particularly in their level of hand craftsmanship (dials, dial furniture, zaratsu finishing). That's not Omegas thing at all. Omega makes some of the GOAT sport watches, mass produced, go to the moon or the Mariana Trench, or for that matter the Olympics. GS will never catch Omega's legacy in sports in a hundred years, and Omega could never devote the time and energy to even touch GS quality without seriously repositioning themselves, which they have no reason to do. So on my wrist, it's SMP300 for a daily sports watch, GS SGBA201 for just a ridiculously classy dress GADA. Great video and thoroughly enjoyed this discussion!

[johnswick]

Maybe it’s the name. But I could never see myself choosing a GS over an Omega. I’ve also just always been wanted a speedy and a sea master so that might Also have something to do with it.

[suavewolf]

I visited my local design district with all the watch shops and I was so ready to go with GS. But when I got to the store and put them on the watches felt kinda flat, also I guess the rep wasn't as enthusiastic and, side note, no financing option. When I got to Omega the reps really walked me through everything made me fall in love with the speedmaster and aqua terra.

[Sams]

If we're talking Omega "Ed White" Cal 321... then it's Omega 100% .... if we're talking the usual ETA based Coaxial Omega vs GS.... then it's a toss up... I have a top of the line GS Hi-Beat White Birch, and white beautiful to look it... it runs 25+ seconds fast a day and even after sending into GS, still runs fast.. So overall, I'd have to give it to Omega.. but specially their higher end production pieces..

[mkyhou]

GS is pricing themselves out of the market with the new evolution line. Rolex datejust / OP prices but marginally better than their classic models and not superior to many Omegas at half the price.

[davecarr]

Very interesting debate. I always had my eye on an Omega but when push came to shove I opted for a GS primarily because of the technology and the finishing. It threaded the needle between dress and casual for me. I do like that Globemaster and it may make a perfect addition to my two watch collection and I would have a complete three watch collection.

[daniel_chayra]

Last point:

Omega drops the moonswatch: watch community freaks out
Seiko drops a GMT: watch community freaks out
Grand Seiko drops a new model:

[ramazanbaris]

I bought my wife a Tudor Royal recently, and she was with me the whole time when we were looking for her first mechanical entry level luxury watch. I asked her if she might be interested in a Grand Seiko for ladies, she literally said "Why would I go for a Seiko if I want a luxury piece?"... I am giving this as an example to show that people who know about Omega and Grand Seiko know their shit, but Grand Seiko is still an unknown brand for people who don't know about high end luxury watches. With this being said, I think that Seiko is Grand Seiko's monkey on the back, however, with good advertising strategies (because obviously they already have the good build quality and heritage) Grand Seiko might beat Omega and even some more similar luxury watch brands.

[SktchPad]

I would argue both sides of this point… GS was my first watch and I LOVED it, but I eventually sold it for an omega which I still wear. All points are valid 🤷🏻‍♂️

[pmcrestoration]

What quanity do you consider a small collection? A large collection? The perfect collection to wear on a regualr basis and not get bored?

[thomasrose]

When I first got into watches, I didn't pay GS any attention. I just thought they were very sporty high end Seikos. Now I've learnt more and explored their elegance line, I think they are producing the best looking dress watches, definitely at their price point, and maybe beating some brands at a much higher price point.

[lukefiner]

Ryan Gosling can move a watch. See drive and lala land and his style outside of movies. His redwings, knit polos, camp shirts, etc

[fartingfish]

I think GS can make itself more desirable to the mass market by going around them and positioning themselves as a high horology brand with watches like their constant force tourbillon. I do think they could use some changes in their design language but if you can appeal to a certain segment at the top others will follow and try to emulate their style. Personally I love GS but prefer Omega as brand because of their variety, history, and “classic” quality—but at the end of the day most GS models simply don’t resonate with me and give me that tingly feeling inside that makes me want to buy a watch.