Roman Catholic Justification vs Protestant Justification | Mike Gendron

[justfromcatholic]

Scripture says we are made righteous through Christ (Rom. 5:19). It is a process because we lose righteousness through sinning as Scripture says in Ezekiel 33:12: "the righteous shall not be able to live by his righteousness when he sins". That is why our sins, committed after believing in Christ, must be forgiven provided we truly repent by grace of God through Christ, which return our righteous state back or we will live. Ezekiel 33;19 says "when the wicked turns from his wickedness, and does what is lawful and right, he shall live by it. When we die in righteous state and are judged (Heb. 9:27) we will be declared righteous because we are indeed made righteous by Christ.

Scripture nowhere says that justification is instantaneous and is by faith alone. The phrase "justified by faith appears four times in NT (Rom. 3:28, 5:1, Gal. 2:16, 3:24). NT was written in Greek and the one in Rom. 3:28 was written in Greek passive present tense, while the rest are in Greek passive aorist tense. Both tenses do not indicate a completed justification by faith. If Scripture teaches faith-alone justification, then the Holy Spirit would inspire Paul to write the phrase "justified by faith" in Greek passive perfect tense.

Who is preaching biblical justification?

[Democracyofthedead]

This isn’t what the Catholic Church teaches, it’s what Mr. Gendron says the Catholic Church teaches.

[lfw]

CCC Paragraph 1992:

"Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ who offered himself on the cross as a living victim, holy and pleasing to God, and whose blood has become the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men.

Justification is conferred in Baptism, the sacrament of faith. It conforms us to the righteousness of God, who makes us inwardly just by the power of his mercy."

2:00 Hebrews 10:26-27
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

[nickynolfi]

This guy doesnt understand what he is talking about. Catholics distingush between the act of justification (actus justificationus) which happens in a moment vs the habit of justification ( habitus justificationus) which is the growing in sanctification. Also neither Trent or the ccc anathemizes imputed righteousness ( vicarious satisfaction is having the merits of Christ applied to you) the church just anathemizes imputation/ legal justification alone. Aka if you arent born again and Jesus doesnt live in you then you arent justified. People like mike seem to be slow to learn but quick to damn.

[davidfabien]

The gifts of JUSTIFICATION and SALVATION are subject to God's FIRST and FOREMOST free gift of abundant GRACE
How can salvation be a free gift when the gospel urges us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling? (Philippians 2:12b) One thing many of us have always misunderstood: the free gift is first and foremost God's abundant GRACE which he lavished upon us resulting in justification and salvation through the redemption in Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as an expiation, through faith, by his blood, to prove his righteousness because of the forgiveness of sins previously committed (Romans 3:24-26 justified freely by his grace, Romans 5:17b God's gift of abundant grace and of the gift of justification). Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from you; it is the gift of God.
Romans 5:15 But the gift is not like the transgression. For if by that one person's transgression the many died, how much more did the grace of God and the gracious gift of the one person Jesus Christ overflow for the many.
Romans 5:20-21The law entered in so that transgression might increase but, where sin increased, grace overflowed all the more, so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also *might reign through justification for eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Please note that St Paul didn't say to the Galatians that they had lost their salvation but he declared to them that they had fallen from grace and had been severed from Christ.
God's free gift of abundant grace can be freely received or denied.

*grace also might reign through justification: to me, does not imply full assurance unless St Paul had written “grace also now reigns through justification” or “grace also is reigning through justification” or again “grace also will reign through justification”