How HR Cheats Employees 2

This is video is about three common tricks that Human Resources uses to cheat employees out of money, dignity, and employment rights. This is the second video by Mr. Robertson.

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Chapters:

00:00 - Introduction
00:37 - Trick 1 - Third Party Investigators
03:49 - Trick 2 - Misclassification
06:31 - Trick 3 - HR Lies When They Fire You
09:25 - Conclusion

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[robertromano]

I’m a college senior that was just about to apply to graduate programs in a HR-related field just a few months ago when I first saw your videos. I was quite upset, because I drank the “kool-aid” that HR is there to help employees. Well, after my first internship, I saw first-hand that you are absolutely right, and I now want to become an employment lawyer like you. Studying for the LSAT is very difficult, but these videos give me motivation because I want to fight for employees like you do. Thanks and keep up the good work.

[cyu]

Over the years I have determined the only times you should be dealing with HR is when you enter a job and when you leave a job. The game is fixed. Anything you tell them will be used against you in a court of law.

[Jm-zk]

I was led to believe by HR that the 3rd party investigators they assigned to handle my complaint were neutral/unbiased, but these investigators were actually attorneys representing my employer. I reported them to the State Bar for misrepresentation and conflict of interest. They are now under investigation. So, everyone, if you experience the same thing, report these attorneys to the State Bar. This must stop!

[ghettostreamlabs]

30 years ago, when I started working, my dad told me "remember son, HR is the company's lawyer, not your lawyer". Took probably a decade for it to make sense to me. Everyday i see people in the HR office bitching about something, and I know that as soon as they finish a paper trail will be started to "legally" fire them.

I will say, not every company has scumbag HR. There are maybe 5-10% that are run fairly and honestly. But that number is shockingly low.

[ScottJB]

Story time: At a previous company, I had one of their employees hit-and-run (while driving a company truck) my car in the parking lot. I approached HR and they told me they had looked into video footage and seen who it was and heavily implied that it was this individual. The next day, my boss had a meeting with me and said they had no idea who hit me and no proof so my personal insurance would have to handle it. I went back to HR and the story was totally different--the CCTV camera hadn't been working and they had no idea who it was or even proof that it had happened on their property. My boss was also the boss of this employee and didn't want to have to fire the driver (they were short staffed) or have legal liability. HR is NEVER on your side in a dispute between you and management.

[sskoog]

Can confirm. During my mid-to-high-level security career, I witnessed two CEOs repeatedly cutting the conversation short: "How much is it gonna cost to make this go away? If it's ~50K, let's just do it. If it's ~100K, let's gather up evidence and make a court case." He didn't care about the details or behaviors or persons involved; he didn't even particularly care if the decision boomeranged back on him in a few years, because he'd be out of the job by then. Gotta believe most of the corporate machine feels similarly.

[victoriap]

The company fired a friend of mine and the same day brought me in and shared she wasn’t fired due to her work but her attitude. She later sued. Then I was targeted despite saving the company a million dollars during this time. I was fired for not being detail oriented and when I got home in the mail was a letter from the same person who fired me congratulating me for being so detail oriented and giving me a raise.

[GoliathZ]

I was young and naive, got laid off from my first job after asking for a raise. I'd previously stated my discontent about the salary (and talked positively about everything else) many times during the company's monthly "check ins" with HR. I talked to my manager about working towards getting a promotion and he said he thought I was ready for the new role, told me he'd pass word upstairs to get me said promotion. They gave me more responsibilities which I diligently accomplished, then called me up to HR one day.

I was prepared for a "Hey man, no promotion yet sadly but keep working hard!" or something along those lines, instead I was met with a termination due to "a lack of compromise" they said had been constantly reported to me (a blatant lie, given that every single one of my reviews with my manager were positive) with the company's projects. When I defended myself (backed up by my manager), I was then told someone had complained about me not coming to work once, which also never happened. Lastly they said I just wasn't good enough to complete my tasks on time and adviced me against pursuing legal action by saying "you could try, but we've got a whole legal team ready to work :)".

Honestly traumatizing, I even had nightmares related to the lay off. There were but a handful of layoffs in the company's history and I was one of them. I felt betrayed, useless and powerless, even considered a career change altogether. A couple months later I got a job that paid literally 5 times what I made there, so I can say now it helped me grow professionally, but at the time it was terrible for my self esteem.

[peacefreedom]

This is crazy. I had a situation that traumatized me. The company kept trying to write me up for things that never happened. It felt like I was in the twilight zone. Each time I’d submit documentation proving the allegation false. They’d take it out of my personal file and then claim something else. This ordeal went on for almost a year and made me so anxious I was having panic attacks. They eventually offered me a settlement if I’d agree to resign. I still don’t know what I did that made me a target. Now, I’m completely terrified at the thought of going back into the work world. I think it’s because I don’t know what I did or how to avoid having this happen again. I feel thankful to see this video because I didn’t know how common this is. I’m such a genuine person and I really just wanted to do a good job. It was devastating to be treated that way. I’ll never be the same.

[patsybry]

Years ago I was working for a company as their logistics manager. Was with them for over 3 years and never had any issues. Things feel apart for me due to personal issues and I was feeling severely depressed. My parents noticed something was wrong so decided to call the police to do a welfare check on me. Unfortunately the time the cops decided to check on me was during work times. Obviously I wasn't at my house so they visited me at work to inform they would be taking me to the hospital for my safety. I pleaded with them not to take me as I knew I would lose my job over this. My boss and his wife ran the company and although I had no personal ill feelings towards them, I simply didn't trust them when they told me "please go, we want you to get help." I had the feeling for awhile they wanted to merge my postion with another workers role to save some money of course. The cops informed me that there's no way my boss would fire me and I either went with them peacefully or I'll get pepper sprayed and taken in handcuffs.
After a night in the hospital and getting checked over etc, I went home and rang work to inform them I'm fine and I'll be back to work soon. Only to be told "no, we don't want you back."
Sure enough when I received my termination notice in the mail the company lied and stated they wrote me up for several issues in my workplace and gave me multiple verbal warnings that I ignored.
Wish I sued them for unfair dismissal.

[xziang]

Was in the corporate world for 20years. Stumbled onto your video and agree 100% One learns really quick that HR is only there to protect the company and doesn't care about the employee.

[Gamer-J]

Yep. Going back to 2003, I was fired from a job because I submitted a complaint against a verbally abusive coworker. Even in that discussion with my management and HR, they said that letter I submitted was one of the reasons I was being terminated. Pretty awful, but I was too young at the time to realize I had rights.

[hcook]

People would be shocked and appalled how many genuine whistleblowers are fired

[toddashley]

I can honestly say the rise of corporate HR departments has been a bane to our country's healthcare workers and huge contributor to why MANY highly skill and capable healthcare workers are no longer in the industry. It's a HUGE problem nationwide.

[jeffnoble]

My company launched an ethics investigation into me after I put Christian on my LinkedIn profile. They were going to fire me, but I said I wanted an attorney to represent my best interests. They said I was violating my employment agreement by "Not Fully Cooperating with the investigation". I said that's not what I said. I said that I'm willing to cooperate fully with the investigation, but with my attorney present. They got pissed. I have no doubt that I was supposed to be fired that day, but because I said I wanted an attorney present for the investigation, I'm on paid suspension. They email me everyday for my attorney's contact info

[CMarieMuse]

In every job I've ever had, I've brought up reasonable concerns, and then later on in my review get labeled as having a "bad attitude" specifically so if they need to fire me for calling them on their BS, it's on record that I have a bad attitude and that means I'm not a good fit for the company.

I'm learning to advocate for myself better, so if I hear it again in my next review, I'm going to ask for specific examples of how I had a poor attitude and ask them if they can offer ideas on how to overcome it, because I know they'll be stumped and have to juggle a bunch of words for an answer.

[gkennedy]

HR told me that my department was being reorganized and that my job had been eliminated. So, I went to my colleagues and asked about the new structure for the department. They had no idea what I meant. Only "I" was being reorganized. Why? Department manager had been blame-shifting all screw-ups onto me. I was the "fall guy". Welcome to the Rat Race!

[davidvogel]

Bravo, and again, bravo! I'm pushing 60, and I'm not wet behind the ears, certainly... but I can't tell you how many times I fell for these tricks over the course of my career. I thank you for exposing the Dark Arts of Human Resources. I wish I had learned from an experienced lawyer like yourself before I was repeatedly edged into one oncoming bus after another, all the while believing - naively as it turned out - that I was taking the high road and relying on my employer's professional ethics and - ha ha ha, sense of decency. You are doing an invaluable service especially to young, eager up-and-comers who are but babes in the woods that are crawling with wolves in sheep's clothing (forgive the mixed metaphors!). Instant "Subscribe."

[ReasonablySane]

I retired a year and a half ago and a very glad I don't have to put up with this kind of stuff anymore. But I never had to put up with it in the first place. I just changed companies if something got stupid.

I've never taken the muffy Buffy's in HR seriously. It's a comedy show. But I will say this, for those in their twenties your videos are a huge help. You're showing them what I didn't realize until my 30s.

[SmokeBloody]

Many employers will try to fire you if you even ask too many questions regarding your rights and benefits. They might even say something like "looks like you care more about yourself rather than the wealth of the company". But they can't use it as a legal reason to fire you so they will just exaggerate any minor mistake made by you to eventually have a "legit" reason to fire you.