Evil HR trick exposed (and how to fight back!)

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“Just so you know this call is being recorded for quality assurance”

JennifuhhGilardi
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As a retired union steward I must say you have NEVER failed to nail the proper course of action.

MrDportjoe
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Here i go again.
I work in a company where i ask my manager a question via email. He would get up out of his chair leave his office walk down the corridor talk to me personally turn around, go back to the corridor up the stairs back to his desk and there was an email from me stating "Thank you for responding to my question. Just to recap, this is what you said, correct....)
I never hear back from him

dirtyharry
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I had a boss who insisted on this. She wanted to make sure we were both on the same page after every meeting. I love it, it's a good practice to do in general in corporate America. Keep everyone honest

cajunguy
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Texas A&M University INTERIM Foreman actually evaluated Me as "being female she is a distraction to the male workers".
After the male coworkers complained about how the Foreman treated Me, HR came to Me to say, "We can't find that evaluation anywhere. We are sure You must've misunderstood. Here, sign THIS ONE."
I offered HR a copy of My copy.
emPLOYment Law on some level, ought to be CRIMINAL COURT, not CIVIL Court.

KammeO
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It's super cool that hr literally exists just to brush your problems under the rug and pretend like they don't exist and will genuinely refuse any form of communication that proves they're intentionally ignoring the issue you're trying to fix. Not in the least bit infuriating.

pokeguy
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If you make a harassment claim at your job, and they fire you; I know a LOT of lawyers would *LOVE* to be on that case because as an employer that is the worst thing you could possibly do.

MXALOVE
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I'm sharing several of your posts with a coworker of my husband. It is not about sexual harassment. BUT it IS a template for her to deal with HR in a way (for her particular situation) that makes sure to ACYA. (always cover your azz). And should be done all the time. That paper trail is KEY to protect and or prevent trickery, "miscommunication" or outright lies. Thank you for these. Her HR experience should be much easier going forward with a trail and the key points there in black and white.

kayleenkrolikowski
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I live in a one party consent state. I record every meeting with my boss, even if it’s a basic “here’s what we’re doing today.” And I’ve drilled it into my coworkers to do the same. Never know when they’re gonna spring something on you in case they need to use it against you.

EmmanezerScrooge
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As a young adult who has faced serveral instances of maltreatment at work. I really appreciate this channel.

francismeowgannou
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If the email is on internal servers, make sure and keep a copy. HR can order IT to erase it....

Make sure the copy is digital and physical....at least that is my suggestion. I don't know if it's legal or not....

montecorbit
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I once took a voice recorder into a meeting because my Union rep was off sick.When they saw it they dismissed all the allegations against me.👍

johnbaldock
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Yes, always take notes. I worked in customer support for software, it was required that we put notes about the call on the issue to protect ourselves legally if they ignored our guidance.

ViolentOrchid
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Also always remember: HR is not there for you. They do not want to protect your best interests. They are there for the _company, _ to protect the _company._

In many cases, the best way for the company to protect themselves is also to help you resolve the situation, so you and HR can actually want the same thing, and work together to achieve it. In some cases, however, they don't, and you need to be aware that HR is not always going to be doing what's best for you, if that isn't also what they think is best for the company.

foogod
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This is a good idea with any potential lawsuit situation. Always follow up with an email discussing what you talked about!
Or record the call if its legal to do so in your state. In my state, its a one party state, so I can record a conversation that's my conversation, even if the other person doesn't know. But every state is different. Do not do this unless your sure of your state's laws

julietteoscaralphanovember
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THIS. You do this with EVERY SINGLE INSTANCE where you may require evidence of communication. Whether with HR, a supervisor, a coworker, a client, a neighbor, a landlord, etc, etc, etc. If it's a serious legal/professional discussion that the other person keeps trying to move to phone call or in-person unnecessarily, that is your cue to start being more diligent about maintaining a paper trail. And you can be sweet as pie about it if you want.

Sleipnirseight
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I always record and let them know the conversation is recorded.

YouTubePurgetheblackplague
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Don't be afraid to inform them that you are going to record the call or meeting. There is no expectation of privacy when discussing your workplace with an HR rep.

humorinpolitics
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P.s. old manager retired. New Manager took over and a review was upcoming.
I emailed asking if she had any questions for me since she is new and know nothing.
She replied, "You should have submitted those questions a month ago. If there is anything else, let me know.."
😞

dirtyharry
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If I have a vocal recording of my termination where I'm being told that the client didn't like me and then on my unemployment paperwork, they put down that as the reason "unethical behavior". Do I have a case?

VergeXT