What Happens If You Kill The Dark Justiciar Before Meeting Yurgir | Baldur's Gate 3

Raphael really should've told me bout them rats

[TheLaluciDaniel]

Yurgir: Fine, but no more songs!
Raphael: LIVES ALL MORTAL LIVES

[devoncarr]

I love Raphael. Even with no leg to stand on he finds a way to twist words and lie. there is really no end to his cunning.

[X_PotentialDnD]

Love the irony of Astarion, right here.

Astarion:
"You had one chance to do the right thing"

Meanwhile Astarion is approving of literally all bad actions in the entire game.

[nobuffer]

The funny loophole that Raphael condemns, the whole "subcontracting" thing, to Yurgir, is invalid on his part. Considering that because Yurgir no longer hears the song, the deal Raphael himself created has been fulfilled. He only argues that point to keep his grip on Yurgir.

In hindsight, that's probably the reason why he wanted us to kill him in the first place. He knew we would probably explore and eventually kill the last Justiciar, , and in doing so free Yurgir. So he wants us to kill him to cover up the loophole he accidentally left in his and Yurgir's contract.

[garwynrosser]

The clever outcome here is that, if you skip ahead in the quest, it fails when you complete it. Well played Larian.

[ileandr]

Rafael is the coolest villain ever! Gortash and co are kindergarteners compared to him.

[TrickiousRickious]

If the Contract didn’t stipulate you couldn’t get outside help, then you can’t be in breach for doing so

You can’t be in violation of what wasn’t said or written in a deal, print can’t be so fine that it isn’t there

Raphael played him like a fiddle, he had nothing on the Orthorn anymore, just made them think he did

[DBfan]

God I loved how I did this. I talked to the demon, let him think I was on his side, told astarion, 'chill dude, it's all part of the plan' then got my party in an advantagous position and just let loose with arrows and bombs. so much fun!

[cakeyeater]

Not only did i not kill the last justiciar, i didnt know there was one. I just thought they had been turned into rats somehow, and went on with the story. Killed this yugir guy in the meantime by luring him to the stairs from the main area, and blocking the places to jump to for permanent high ground and minimal weakness to melee attacks

[beoweasel]

It seems like the developers, while having enough time to account for killing the Justiciar before talking to Yurgir, they didn't have the time to provide a different reaction for Asterion, given how he still acts like we had cut a deal with Yurgir to free him from his contract, rather than it being purely by accident.

[CreamyGoodness]

Hey, Raphael, the contact didn't state that I could get help, but it also didn't state that I COULDN'T get help. Devil's in the details, you see

[ItsJoeyNoodles]

Wait, you're telling me it was the damn rats the whole time....

[Godlyhank]

You can legit convince Yurgir to kill everyone, his pet and himself. That was fun.

[tylerclark]

FYI, everyone that wants to kill the Justicar for his scimitar but also help Astarion. Just walk into to room and jump him. Don't talk to Yungir. Just blast him. Preferably as a Gloomstalker. Pretty much killed him on one turn. Even though hes free from the contract if you kill him before Raphael shows up you're good on Astarion's contract.

[Dr.Quarex]

This video just reminded me that Raphael never showed up in my playthrough to tell Astarion what his tattoo meant after ending Yurgir. My no-long-rest playthrough really was a dumb idea in hindsight

[syrusalder]

I did this without even meaning to. Found the rats, put them in a magical blender, then shanked the grumpy justiciar in self defence. Found this guy like 5 minutes later and was surprised to find out I didn't need to fight him because i accidentally screwed him over.

[caftdynner]

If he said "no more songs" wouldn't Raphael mess up his own contract when he starts singing in the Hope battle?

[anska]

And once that Friends spell expires: Astarion disapproves -10 (At least that was the result I got when putting Charm on him at one point.)

[viroman]

Huh I had no idea this could happen. When I saw that displacer beast I just attacked it and got swarmed by Yurgir and his followers. We killed them with some effort and Astarion got his scar decoded.

[vinny]

i basically broke this quest and got this cutscene because i couldn’t resist throwing an alchemist’s fire at the rats around the shar altar before you even enter the temple… i spoke to the rat that comes up to you with my druid and promised to not kill any more of them to get their treasure but apparently my crimes against ratkind were too great and they attacked me anyway, and also this fabled last dark justiciar never showed up for me after the fight? so i didn’t think much of it right until this point where i felt so cheated i reloaded 2 hours of gameplay to kill this guy lmao


but really astarion look it’s not my fault those rats were standing in a perfectly alchemist’s fire shaped circle