Why Protestant Sola Fide is Problematic?

I discuss the problems with the Protestant doctrine of Sola Fide.
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⏰Timestamps⏰:
0:48 What is Sola Fide?
2:36 What is the Catholic View?
4:11 Justification & Sanctification
5:16 What’s the disagreement?
7:08 Evidence for Sola Fide
10:45 The Problem of James 2
12:34 The Strength of the Catholic Position
15:17 Some context behind the debate?
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About the video:
Join us as we explore the intense and enduring debate over 'sola fide'—the doctrine of justification by faith alone—which historically separates Protestant and Catholic theology. This video delves into the theological differences that define this controversy, examining both Protestant and Catholic perspectives on faith, works, and salvation. We also discuss the implications of this doctrine on interdenominational discussions and how it has shaped ecumenical dialogue since the Protestant Reformation. Whether you're a theologian, a student of religion, or simply curious about this pivotal aspect of Christian doctrine, this discussion provides a comprehensive understanding of the complexities surrounding sola fide.
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[roderickdickson]

you are doing good work my brother! God bless you!

[IMakeMetal]

So I think this may be one of the bigger examples of really splitting hairs between protestants an catholics out there. Both fundamentally believe that you need faith in Christ for salvation and having this, you will do good works. Admittedly the verse stating "faith without works is dead" is arguably the most powerful one in favor of the catholic interpretation of what role works play into our salvation. My main issue with this is the conclusions being drawn from this passage and derivations from those conclusions. It's very particular that it says "dead" and not something like unjustified or insufficient. This would imply to me something more to the effect that having faith with no works to show for it means you didn't actually have faith, hence being dead rather than lacking. Our works are indicative of our faith in the same way that good fruit can only come from a good tree.

I tend to stay away from this topic in general because I think it is more dangerous for someone to wind up falling through the cracks getting caught up on the minutia than for us to go through life not have the precise details of how the entirety of our salvation works beyond what was spelled out for us specifically. The common ground that we agree on should be enough for any believer to hold on to and I'd be hesitant about any traditions or claims about implications of being saved through faith. I would never want someone to be told by a believer that they are not saved because their works aren't good enough or that they are clearly saved because of their good works. The protestants failing in this causes them to be less charitable than the catholics, while the catholics have more "believers" just going through the motions in their works while ignoring the true nature of their faith.

There's merit and pitfalls in both general interpretations, but I don't want this to be something that people ever feel needed to get heated over.

[poetrybyivo]

Fantastic video and great balanced discussion of this issue. To me, as a protestant, I see it as a little bit of a chicken and the egg idea, except of course to my knowledge one with an answer. To me it is through faith that we come to Christ, and therefore our view on the world is changed in such a way that demands works. Therefore: faith -> works. However, I also recognise that this process is often cosmically instant, and not separatable by instances of time by which we can clearly make such a distinction. So I can see also a more Catholic position of the i guess symbiotic relationship between the two on the journey to heaven. This is why I ultimately believe we are all Christians, part of the 'catholic' (in a traditional universal sense) church. If we are commanded to make disciples of all nations, does it not make sense that we administer these teachings in ways that all can understand? The central element of our faith remains. Belief in God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, of the power of the Cross for our salvation, and of one true God. I pray that we may not get caught up in fractional disputes but recognise the beauty of all Christians in spreading our message by the grace of God.

[skylerharris]

By what I see, the person missing in this whole discussion is the Holy Spirit. He is the one who sanctifies you. He has made you new, is making you new and will make you new. Any good works we do after being indwelled by the Spirit (which happens after faith in Christ) are done solely by the power of the Spirit. Those works are good works and all other works apart from the Spirit are dead. In other words, we don’t do any of it on our own, nor could we! All you do is continue to believe and God does the work in you and through you. Not to say you’re a flesh puppet for the Holy Spirit, but by the power of the Spirit and Christ’s blood, all sin is counted for nothing and any good works are counted as righteousness to you by the power of the Holy Spirit. Any good work you do as a Christian you point to God and say “it’s all because of Him.” And justification is required in order for God to dwell in us. You must be cleansed before even receiving the Spirit. And sanctification, or the Holy Spirit working in and through you, is God working on your sin nature. And final sanctification is complete in our new bodies. That’s all my understanding.