Is ProRes Raw worth it? Atomos Ninja V ProRes RAW VS Internal Recording on the Sony a7s III

Is ProRes Raw worth it? Atomos Ninja V ProRes RAW VS Internal Recording on the Sony a7s III

00:00 - Sony a7s III and Atomos Ninja V recording options
00:32 - Sony a7s III internal recording VS ProRes 422
01:30 - Is ProRes 422 sharper than internal recording of Sony a7s III ?
01:50 - Fixing white balance in ProRes 422 and internal recording
02:10 - 12800 ISO performance of ProRes 422 and internal recording
02:34 - 8-bit vs 10-bit in Sony a7s III
02:58 - ProRes RAW Sony a7s III settings and limitations
03:43 - ProRes RAW quirks and caveats
04:57 - How to work with ProRes RAW in Final Cut Pro
05:16 - Does ProRes RAW have better dynamic range?
05:51 - 12-bit ProRes RAW vs 10-bit internal recording with Sony a7s III
06:32 - 4.2K ProRes RAW resolution
06:48 - Extreme Grading and different ISO tests with ProRes RAW vs internal recording
07:38 - Do you even need to use ProRes RAW?
09:40 - Quote and Question of the Episode

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[NOlimitsON]

Will you use ProRes RAW on Sony a7s III?

#Sony #Atomos #NinjaV #AtomosNinjaV #ProRes #ProResRAW #Sonya7sIII #Sonya7s3 #ProRes422

[Noojtxeeg]

10 bit internal is still one of the most balanced options when it comes to performance and practicality.

[_CRiT_hits_]

Love love love LOVE how you put all the lens and settings details in the corner of every clip!!! Thank you for the great video! Definitely subscribed

[__BlakeLove__]

I just HAVE TO make you aware that this was probably one of the best (easy for me to understand/follow along), videos on this topic that I’ve ever seen. I’m now subscribed sir 🎉

[WhenWillILearn]

I’ve been using prores raw and the issues you mentioned about time remaining is because prores raw is a variable bitrate and it displays the worst case scenario, the seconds then count down relevant to the actual bitrate. If you’re shooting a detailed scene with lots of movement you get less recording time. So its not something that can really be fixed, maybe just explained. Really useful video 😁

[ouajbir]

You have done a great job buddy 🙏🏻 Thank you for the comparaison

[mannydelossantosproduction]

"Of course nobody grades like this."
Me: That's right!...Quietly deletes over-graded videos...🤣🤫

[jonnystollfilms]

Just bought a Ninja V and this was very helpful. Thank you!

[VideoCreatorsLounge]

Prores raw would be especially good if Sony allowed open gate so we could use the entire sensor when shooting video... Most people don't realize that we're all losing resolution on the vertical which would allow us more crop options in post as well as using a 2X anamorphic lens if we wanted.

[chaochewei]

Perfect demonstration and substantial information as usual 🎉

[daycreek]

At high ISO's, ProRes Raw cleans up incredibly well using noise reduction software. Once applied, you'll be amazed how much better footage looks compared to in-camera--much sharper and cleaner.

[mahdiyavari]

I needed this ...thanks man you just saved me alot of money .. i wanted to go for a7siii and atmos now i know i can just go for sonh a7iv and yet get better photo resolution

[timpolster]

Thanks for the comparisons. Looks like Sony did a great job with the internal recording.

[anandvyas]

Great video I found the exact same thing. The ninja is a little bit sharper and yes has more color in contrast to begin with in the image which is good. Yet the internal signal side-by-side is pretty darn close once you match them

[williamayton]

I mainly bought my 'Ninja V' (Arriving Friday) as a monitor and as a cheaper, long term storage when compared to SD cards.
What I might do, is use PreRes RAW and do a shoot in S-Log3, as I still think S-Log3 isn't great on the a7s iii when compared to the fs7 and other bigger Sony cameras.
What I am really looking forward to, is the false colours and scopes on the Ninja V. As I will be abel to nail exposure everytime VS the tiny monitor on the a7s iii.

[tyalexandercheng]

Very useful video. Thank you for your time and effort. You helped me make more informed choices.

This exactly what i needed thanks so much!

[THEWATCHERUNIVERSE]

I just got the fx3 with atomos ninja v mainly to shoot in lowlight because this the the "LOWLIGHT KING". It`s not. I`ve had a bmpcc4k before and the color science is better in bmpcc and the 1250 iso (the second native) is similar to 12800 on sony but 99% less noisier (slog 3 or prores raw). The only advantages on the sony are as follows : the focus is great great great, the internal stabilization is good (much better if you shoot slog3, not in prores raw because you got also the steadyshot option), more battery life bla bla bla. My advice is as follows. DONT SHOOT PRORES RAW (NORMAL OR HQ) because you cannot get rid of the noise (even if you are properly exposing). If you use DaVinci(dont use prores rawbecause you cannot see the footage) IF YOU HAVE A ATI VIDEO CARD PRORES RAW IS NOT WORKING BECAUSE APPLE POLICY. So. Buy the FX3, Take an atomos ninja v second hand, (cheaper thanbuying cards and also you have a great external monitor) shoot only on slog3 with stabilization active DONT SHOOT IN 12800 iso in lowlight(is crap), NEVER shoot prores raw because you get more noise and artefacts in the midtones than in shadows (doesnt matter if you expose perfectly from 0, 7 to 2, 0). No one from the internet are saying what is true (just 25-30 %of the problems). So sony is not the LOWLIGHT KING!!! Not at this time

[Ariel_emerald]

my main interest in the ninja V is being able to control the amount of noise in the image rather than being forced to use sony's noise reduction, as phillip bloom showed in his review you can use post software like neat video to clean up the noise spectacularly but it doesnt work well with the internal noise reduction. Anyways thanks for this video, started watching your channel and i love your videos.

[WanderbirdLife]

Some things have changed since this posted but still some great info. I'm working off the Alpha 1 and keen to compare.