Sony FX6 Using Pro Res Raw | Is It Worth It?

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This video will compare the sony fx6 xavcs-I coded to the external Pro res raw that you can get on the atomos ninja V recorder with an SSD, we go through the setup, color grading workflow, and a footage comparison.

0:00 Intro
1:39 Sony FX6 Pro Res Raw Workflow
7:08 Comparisson

**I am not a colorist, I'm a junior at best, so some of the workflow and grading could be done better, I just did this for the sake of education and comparison.

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[philippscheithauer]

Couple of notes regarding the color spaces as you got many errors there. Hope to clear this up for people searching for information. Since you defined DWG as your timeline color space, your tools will correspond to that. But for some reason you converted your footage to Slog3 make the tools not align with your conversion. Furthermore you convert it to ARRI Logc which basically does nothing but shifting colors (doesn't give you more flexibility).

Your best option would be to to set the clip RAW settings to Blackmagic Design Film, do a CST from BMD Film to DWG. Do all your adjustments in DWG color space (since you set this as your timeline color space) and convert it to Slog3 before applying your LUT that was designed for that specific color space (may differ if you actually designed it for ARRI logc3).

Also a note: Gamma 2.4 is for TV, Broadcast and Cinema. You'd use Rec709 (or Rec709-A for Mac) if you upload this online. Otherwise you will have color shifts due to incorrect Gamma tags. (Youtube will automatically convert it to gamma 2.2 (aka Rec709) and it looks washed out since you exported Gamma 2.4

[DVVINCIfilm]

I’m a new fx6 user and your videos have been amazing, keep it up!

[danbrockettDOP]

All I saw in your tests was that the ProRes RAW has a touch more detail and clarity but it's something that most clients would never notice. I shot a huge documentary mostly with CRL in the C200 and in post, it's been a bit of a nightmare with file size storage requirements and editing requirements. The images look good but we ended up with almost 100TB of footage. If we had budget and could hire an AE or two to help our editors deal with the RAW, it would be worth it but we don't have the editor resources to throw at it.

I would only use a RAW workflow for projects where you simply aren't going to shoot a ton of footage, commercial, music video, promo type stuff. For long form or projects where you're going to need to shoot a ton of footage like documentaries or long form other content, I simply don't think RAW is worth the extra hassle and money at all.

[LMActionsports]

Wow this video just made me second guess myself about getting into videography. I am a photographer that is dabbling with video. I setup my a7iv with the atomos ninja v and been dabbling with s-log 3. And seeing you edit pro res raw made me scratch my head on everything you did to edit it. I am just playing around with LumaFusion on my iPad Pro doing some simple editing. But I didn’t realize everything that goes into everything raw video. Great video by the way I love the channel.

[Daniel_Sanchez_]

Lately it's the only way I've been shooting with my FX6. I skipped the extension unit for my FX9 and also use RAW shooting with our A1. I love the workflow and converting RAW to CDNG is making editing a breeze! Can't go back to internal recording anymore lol

[zhuber]

I like the raw shadows better, but the xavci highlights better.

[johnclay]

informative 10mins on sony fx6 workflow.

[visualsbydavid_]

Awesome bro! I've been tempted to use Pro Res RAW for a while now, maybe it's time....

[jasielm]

Don’t see the huff n Puff for ProRes Raw and I’ve got the shogun Inferno that paired up good with my FS5ii. Now with the fx6 it’s more of a luxury. I use the shinobi monitor for my fx6. Does the job

[InfamousStar]

Can’t recall if this was already noted within this video, but another benefit to ProRes RAW on the FX6, via the Ninja recorder, is the ability to get a slightly higher resolution (4.2K).

[seanmartinflix]

I just wish resolve would support ProRes raw .

[TheGrassfedHomestead]

I shot Pro res raw for awhile but eventually switched to Pro Res 422 for the reduced file size

[Sabrithai]

Great job, i really like your videos !
I have a question, Sony SFX6 can be used to shoot movies ? I would like to shoot a long format fiction movie ( not documentary) using the orion lenses.

[VChillz]

Thanks for this video! Can you do 120fps with the ninja V?

[MarineX]

I shoot raw all the time for no reason in my studio and fx3. But conversion is easy in Final Cut Pro.

[kidcosan]

I’ve been looking for a video like this.
Can you make a video where you compare the same clips in editing and show how much you can push and pull the same clip in RAW vs XAVC-I

[NakeanWickliff]

It's my understanding that your codec does not change your dynamic range. Slog3 is the same DR in raw as it is in All-I as it is in HEVC, as it is in H.264. As long as you have 10 bits to work with your codec shouldn't break when grading,

[willch]

Sony needs to secretly release a "hacked" firmware that allows internal compressed RAW

[giuliomalloni]

Nice one. Would you recommend buying a ninja v to shot pro res raw on a Sony fx30 ? Is it worth the money ?

[samireivinen]

A7s3 benefits greatly from prores raw, as NR and sharpening are badly tuned, but on fx6 I'm not so sure. I already like the fx6 image on internal recording. Something that I never liked on a7s3.