Kathleen Stock and Richard Dawkins Question Modern Gender Identity

The savage missiles hurled at Kathleen Stock in the stocks of Sussex University gives the lie to the pretense that her tormentors should be pitied as an oppressed minority who just want to peacefully get on with their life. I’ve long admired her gentle courage in the face of vicious bullying. When we finally met at the Dissident Dialogues Conference in New York this May, I felt an instant affinity. It was a pleasure to conduct the following interview.
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#richarddawkins #richarddawkinstour #genderequality #KathleenStock #DissidentDialogues
#SussexUniversity #freespeech #academicfreedom #bullyingawareness
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[ferriveiro]

I'm so glad left wing people are talking about this. This isn't a left vs right issue. This is about fighting irrational ideas.

[clemdane]

I remember as a 13 year old reading about the Salem Witch trials and wondering how anyone could have believed that or how the girls could make these accusations and now it's just crystal clear.

[annabizaro-doo-dah]

I could listen to Kathleen Stock all week. I love her use of clear, precise language and her calm and reasoned manner. So enjoyable.

[IslandArt]

I'm in an area and industry in the US where this is prevalent. As an older progressive white male I was pretty much "live and let live" thinking there's no real harm in this. Eventually I began to look at it as maybe just selfishness that could border on narcissism. A person says they are trans and the entire surrounding world must accept and bend to their whim. When the "trans" colleague arrives in the morning, everyone is on eggshells worrying might they say something wrong. Change your lifetime of language least you make some newspeak faux pas or "misgender, " a crime worse than murder. Seriously, that kind of fear, what a power to have over people. One day someone railed about J.K. Rowling. I wondered at what she said that could bring forth such venom. I eventually found her now famous post, "dress however you please, call yourself whatever you I was completely taken aback at the absurdity of the attacks. That sent me down the rabbit hole where I discovered Maya Forstader, Helen Joyce, Stella O'Mally, Kathleen Stock, Sall Grover, Graham Linehan, and many more people speaking honestly and intelligently on the subject -- and suffering for that speech. I also discovered my ignorance about "trans healthcare". Turns out it's not flu shots and blood tests, but drastically altering bodies, including children. "Trans healthcare", Orwellian words.

One sad thing about getting informed on this subject is that my stand now puts me on the same side as rabid right-wingers with whom I have no other common ground. I'm now the lone goat standing off to the side from the screaming right wing-sheep led by equally vile activists as the people promoting this contagion. I hope the young people here in the US begin the shift back to reality as is happening in other places.

[gingerbanyai-riepl]

HUGE respect, Professor Dawkins. I will NEVER forget the amazing opportunity I had when I worked security for your event at the University of Washington, Seattle, 2008. I got to shake your hand and you had your editor send me a copy of your recent book. So kind! So glad you are talking about this topic! Thank you!

[SuperBlinding]

I am a Great Admirer of Kathleen Stock ~ ~ Also Great Credit to Richard Dawkins for taking on this Gender Identity Stuff.

[psychoman]

I loved Dawkins for his atheist talks a decade ago. I am beyond happy to see he is speaking out against this trans nonsense

[timmygibsonkc]

I spent 30 years as an Evangelical Pastor and walked away 6 years ago after reading The God Delusion, along with other books to help me come to terms with having spend nearly 50!years believing in a mythical man made religion. So genuinely, THANK YOU! My life has greatly improved! Keep speaking and writing!

[janinegriffiths]

As a sociologist, I understand gender and gender roles to mean how society expects a biological woman or man to behave in a particular culture; and, those expectations vary from society to society. Unfortunately it seems that gender and sex have been conflated to our detriment.

Thanks for a very interesting conversation.

[SiRushBass]

Bravo to Kathleen for standing up and talking about this. It costs a lot to do this in today's climate, but it sadly needs to be done. Thank you

[Lovertonify]

Kathleen Stock is my hero, thank you for having her on the show

[OhUiginn]

Kathleen Stock is amazing. More Progressives should listen to her. Just drop Gender Ideology. It is not helping anyone.

[DexterDexter]

two of my favourite people who talk in straight lines - a balm for the mind

[alisonlevinson]

Kathleen Stock is incredibly brave to stand up for reality and common sense in the face of such vicious intimidation and with no support from her university. She could have caved in for a quiet life but she stood firm and faced the consequences. Amazing 👏

[DemstarAus]

I think people need to realise that just because you disagree about something, doesn't make you enemies.

[WCFactBreak]

a brave woman speaking about this real issue

[TeamDiezinelli]

Kathleen is saying exactly the right things on a lot of topics.
She is also telling the truth about fetish and sexual preferences and having these things allowed into female spaces, changing rooms etc.

People need to hear that and have a decent disussion about it. Only when we have the whole picture, decerned decisions can be made.

I have great admiration for her.

[ShazWag]

60-year-old great-grandmother here, with no "transgenders" in my family that I'm aware of. I completely agree with everything Kathleen Stock said here. The whole "gender" concept is beyond insanity! I sometimes feel like I'm living in a dystopian novel! I recently did a BSc in Psychology and was quickly shut up by a professor when I mentioned on a forum that gender relates to social identity, whereas sex is biological (since someone asked if they meant the same thing). I also realised that my assignment marks depended on what my tutors wanted to hear, especially regarding LGBTQ+ (hope I got that right) and not really about what I thought. Very sad. I think parents are more likely to suck up to their kids' wishes these days, as upsetting them could easily invite a psychological label, such as the 'N' word, and today's parents are easily and ruthlessly "cancelled". Social media and being exposed to repetitive information through algorithms is definitely shaping impressionable young minds and minimising various perspectives. Critical thinking is decreased this way, especially as younger individuals have a stronger urge to socially conform and be accepted into their peer groups, which influencers understand is inherent, since we're social animals with tribal instincts. Yes, this affects us all, but younger people even more. The parent–child hierarchy has reversed and 'newspeak' is real.

[Margo]

Thank you for these words and ideas. Very clear wording. Thank you.
I left the Humanist Society when they took your award away. I was a Humanist Celebrant.

[garyweglarz]

Dr. Stock is right there with Ms. Rowling as a modern day heroine worthy of everyone's respect and admiration.