Where Does Jordan Peterson Fall Short in his own 12 Rules for Life?

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[preston]

Until the whole world is redeemed, we all fall short

[viggosmiles]

I am nonplussed by how someone could sincerely dislike this video.

[fighterpilot]

Can you please do a clip from this same talk, where he talks about how you can at least aim to make your life or situation “simply tragic and not absolute hell”?

[FloridaRaider]

Life is pain...anyone who says differently is selling something.

[princememphis]

"Kill the boy, Jon Snow. Let me man be born!"

[the-chillian]

I'm no longer a believer, but this, I think, is something Christianity gets right. None of us really lives up to our ideals. We all fuck up from time to time. We very often know what we _should_ do, but actually doing it can be difficult, just because it's hard to pay attention to everything all the time if nothing else. (And there's almost always something else.) Or maybe it's our own weaknesses, or some kind of personality flaw that gets in the way. Or sometimes we're just evil, and do evil even when we know we should not.

This is no reason not to hold to an ideal though, nor does it make it hypocritical to point to an ideal even as you fall short of it. If it were, then no one could point to any ideal ever, but where would that leave us? We could aspire to be nothing more than the best of us we've ever personally met -- but everyone we all know fucks up all the time too.

Set an ideal before yourself. Aim for it. Tell others about it. When you fall short -- and you will -- pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and KEEP GOING.

[michaelgrace]

Miss these, can't believe I missed JP in the uk

[theanswermodel]

Belief systems in aggregate make up ones Identity. Most people have no idea what a true identity is. In fact for most it’s simply a role they don’t even know they are playing. But you can take a good guess about what a person identity is by observing their behaviour. Because behaviour will always follow core beliefs. Those core belief will comprise ones identity. At least their perceived identity but in most cases their false identity. In that regard killing aspects of ones false identity that manifest itself in the past can be safely killed or in a sense Transcended. Just because you kill an aspect of your false identity doesn’t mean that you won’t have learned from it. There is no reason to keep living out of that false identity to acquire sufficient learning. This is a false concept that somebody must embrace their shadow or their ego or their false identity. In fact would be more accurate to say that this is who they are not! And it’s a lot easier journey to the discovery of the true self if you have a clear sense of who you are not. To hang onto that false identity, to review it, to treasure it, even to respect it in a sense would leave you Vulnerable to readopting the dysfunctional behaviours and expressing aspects of the false identity in perpetuity. And almost all cases this would exacerbate the repetition compulsion and the information of value that could’ve been extracted from that experience will not necessarily be any more insightful because of going through some more disfunctions and similar experiences over and over again. In this case Jordan Peterson is exactly right.

[yashukumar]

'A good person is someone who is trying to be better'.Though seems obvious but an often ignored observation.J P is a boon to this generation.

[herwood]

I want to hear Jordan and the dog whisperer discuss rule #5.

[PuffTheMagicHobo]

I didn't watch the whole video but why does he sound so emotional? Was he crying beforehand?

[FRAILT]

Awesome...although I think we are not 'unlike' any other creature ( 3:29) Butterflies voluntarily let their old selves die and their new selves be born...Awesome job Doc...thank you so very much

[ETBrooD]

3:31 "[...] we can let our old selves die and let our new selves be born. And that's what we should do."
No, no no no. That's *not* how this works. DON'T let your old self die, that's a MISTAKE! Not even metaphorically is this correct, it's just blatantly wrong.
There are aspects about yourself that you can find more or less desirable than others. You can address these aspects, you can work on them. But if something is *a part of yourself* then you should *not let it die!* You should understand it, respect it for what it is, give it the space in yourself that it deserves. And instead of getting rid of it, you should *learn to use it more appropriately!* That's true self-improvement! Not death and rebirth but *self-control!*

Only if something *isn't* a part of yourself (like always having a bottle of whiskey next to you. That's not *you, * that's purely external), *only then* can you get rid of it (if it harms you in some way). Only then do you not inflict any harm on yourself by removing it - because it's not a part of you. That's when it's safe to remove it.

[kynismos]

Jordan Peterson might profit from speech training to help him lower his pitch.

[kyreshlcsw]

Aryan brother hood resonates that Odin had to give up his eye to aqcuire wisdom, giving up an eye changes  your veiw of things.

[lewisbenzie]

Sounds like someones trying for internet drama.