Michigan Zoom Driver Suspended License Story Goes Sideways

It got weirder - in an unexpected way.

[richvanorden]

Being he's never had a DL, shouldn't the crime be "unlicensed driver" rather than a "suspended driver"

[ericnewton]

I’m so shocked, a guy with a nonexistent license had a 9 year old bench warrant for driving with a suspended license.

[jeffmorin]

Some additional information for how this happens. In Michigan, if you are caught driving while never having a drivers license, and ticketed or arrested for that offense, that information is transmitted through the courts to the Secretary of State. The State then issue a drivers license number and suspend it, preventing that person from getting a license until advised by the court the matter is resolved. One STILL has to go and pay the fees for reinstatement of driving privileges before a license can be obtained. This is what Judge Simpson was getting at when he spoke about the man first getting a State ID at 19, not a drivers license. He had already been caught driving without a license, and the above described steps were taken. He has known the entire time how to get his license fixed, he does not care. His license was not suspended just due to unpaid child support, he is a scofflaw. He does not care, and he is very adept at fooling the weak minded.

[willl.]

A call back an hour later. "Steve, he wants to know if you'll pay the bail too."

[pepethepatriot]

He 100% DID ask for all of this 'hoopla" when he lied, like the judge said.

[xxttxms]

This defendant is the definition of a compulsive liar.

[halfabee]

My father never passed a driving test!!! In WW2 he was in Italy with the UK forces. His squad was paired up and each pair were given a truck to learn to drive. After that, the entire group was given Army Driving licenses in Italy during WW2. Army driving licenses are valid for driving civilian vehicles.
Many years later in Germany, he was commissioned. He became the Army driving tester. My father was testing Army personnel on passing they obtained a civilian driving license.
He considered this stupid as he did not have a civilian driving license. Hence he signed his own pass certificate and it was accepted. That's how my father gained his Civilian Driving license.
Having never passed a driving test.

[ElectroNeutrino]

This is a perfect example of why "the facts of the matter" are so important. Without knowing all of the relevant facts, it's easy to misjudge the situation.

[radfordra]

Now I retract all sympathy I had for this guy

[edunlap]

He wore a T-shirt that says 'Trust Me' on the front and crossed fingers on the back TO COURT! 😂🤣

[sgtsawhill]

No empathy for this guy. He is in his 40s, didn't pay child support and NEVER tried to get a driver's license, and was driving around for nearly 30 years. You reap what you sew....

[ramonaweston]

Thanks Steve for clearing up this situation.
This guy with no driver license in the beginning of this mess is a responsible for all of this mess.
Apparently their are more men like him out there too.

[geoffstrickler]

The guy sounds like a deadbeat. Unpaid child support, never had a DL, multiple tickets for driving without a license, multiple year old warrant.

[jocktulloch]

His lawyer is completely WRONG! He (the guy without a license) IS responsible for "all this hoopla". He 's the one who keeps driving without a license. He is the one who keeps getting caught driving without a license. Not the cop, Not the DMV. Not the AG' office. Not the judge.

[TT-chpz]

He should be charged with driving while stupid.

[robertoney]

Steve, you have a heart of gold that's priceless!! Making an offer to help the guy out is outstanding.

[superturtle]

Tomorrow's story, he was driving a stolen car during the Zoom call. Next week's he's not only an illegal alien but an actual alien. The plot twists keep coming.

[leofredette]

I saw this yesterday on Law Talk with Mike, WOW that was a surprise!!! and that guy Lied to his Lawyer, she was blindsided.

[mrmiach]

Steve!!!! You're wearing a Desert Bus for Hope T-shirt!!! I'm one of the craft along submitters that donates a craft each year. Thank you so much for being a part of my favorite charity.

[erickrobertson]

Never had a license? Disregard like this for the law will be the end of us all.