Calvinism VS Determinism: Is There A Difference? | Leighton Flowers | Soteriology 101

Dr. Leighton Flowers discusses whether there's a difference between Calvinism and Determinism.

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[pazeluz]

For the past 40 years I have been a defender of Calvinism. I attended a Presbyterian seminary in Brazil, and lived surrounded by calvinist my entire Christian life. I had a problem. I could never harmonize the word “loving” with my theology if I had to think logically. Thank you for what you do. Sometimes I can’t hold my silent tears of joy when I think of how Just, Holy, Good and Living my God is. It’s been a very long time. John 3:16

[JohnQPublic]

Dr. Flowers knocked it out of the park and into the next hemisphere with this one.

[extremelifeandlarydean]

Thank you Dr. Flowers for your clear, concise, cohesive and effective biblical challenges to the teachings of Calvinism. We celebrate and applaud your efforts and determination. And pray that you continue to have the energy, wisdom and strength to keep pushing back on this ineffective teaching & unbiblical doctrine/system! Thank you!!! Hebrews 6:10, Galatians 4:16, 6:14

[pazeluz]

And yes, your ministry helped me tremendously to have a much better glimpse of the real character of our God. Thank you!

[erixxu]

Wish God bless Dr. Flowers and bless all his services.😊🙏

[bilboswagginz]

Dr. Flowers, I do believe this is your best video ever! Very concise, and focused on the important points! I think this will be very helpful for my Calvinist friends who have latched onto the term “compatibilism” as their solution

[paulmann]

I love the phrase: 'You don't understand calvinism'. Seems to me, and it is confirmed over and over again, even calvinists don't understand it.
There are so many different pockets of calvinism that don't agree with each other.
But it seems to me, the reason for all this is in the video above. Have you ever noticed, when a calvinist tries to explain one of his doctrines, how complicated it all is?
The gospel of Jesus Christ is simple.

[MichaelHernandez-lcwb]

Clear, so well spelled. You are getting sharper. I can only say thank you and God bless you richly.

[TeslaandAirbusesarewaytoofun]

Thanks for working so hard to end the damaging heretical fog of Calvinism hanging over so many people

[jay]

Reformed anthropology is so bizarre. The group that is defined by “total inability” simultaneously believes that humans aren’t bad enough on our own volition but rather that God must decree our sin so as to have sin to judge.

[reg]

The clear implication, no matter what these two men say, is calvinism leads to determinism and ultimately a stand for Calvin or following of him not Scripture🌻

[SaintPatrick]

Beautiful said. Thank you, Leighton 😊

[relwod]

According to Hippolytus of Rome's Refutation of all Heresies, the Pharisees also had a philosophy of determinism. It seems that the early Church did not.

[tobyhaas]

Thank you, Dr. Flowers, for speaking truth!

[colmortimer]

The main reason I reject Calvinism is really my own journey. I worked hard to improve my faith. I knew God was real and I was Christian and believed in Christian morality, but it was years of me wrestling with the bible, church, and Prayer to actually put my faith in God, and trust Him. There were many times I could have chosen the easy way out, and early on I did. I rejected the bible as corrupted, I resisted church, all while trying to be morally as Christian as a human can be.

Then I started choosing to trust in God's guidance, and listen to what He wanted and not what I wanted. I chose to read the bible and wrestle with it, I chose and still choose to listen to any good minded Christians, even some Calvinists, to better understand scripture. I chose to ignore my doubts and disagreements, to listen for the truth, and find what we agree on. I could not have done it without prayer, and trusting in the Lords guidance, but it was wholly my decision to turn to Christ for help in understanding, and listening to the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and not just keep going it all alone and hoping I figured it out right.

None of my moral views changed much during the 20 or so years of being Christian, without choosing to put my faith in God's guidance. My born again moment really came from me making that choice to put faith in God, learn the bible and listen to those in Churches, or commentators that I often did not agree with parts of their teaching but needed to hear the good parts that gave me a better understanding of faith, and scripture, and now I can often use scripture to show where and why I disagree, and not just my own thoughts, and what I desire to be true. But at no point do I think this was God's plan all along, I think he hoped I would choose Him, but I had to do the work first to trust in God, when I could have easily kept going alone, and once I made that choice, everything started coming around, and making sense, it was not easy, still is not, but that's the test God gave me to keep humble and faithful that it will get easier by trusting Him.

[arkrainflood]

being a calvinist is like imaging the sound of "one hand clapping".

[AlexanderosD]

Thanks Leighton!
Always love to see ya rocking that jacket! 😊

Simply present Calvinism with consistent Calvinism and it runs an -error- code on itself.
Calvinism IS determinism, and if a Calvinist doesn't understand and believe that, then they are a Calvinist-lite and not actually ascribed to Calvinism.
I have too much respect for my Lord's character, to ascribe MY culpability for my own sin onto Him.

[st.christopher]

Leighton,
So without using the apostle Paul’s actual words, you are basically saying that Calvinism/Determinism is a doctrine of demons. I don’t know how else to interpret what you are saying. I take that same position and also agree with the apostle Paul 100%. ✝️🍞🍷

[kennethdelk]

Great, so very thorough and artuculate. This really demonstrates how calvanist don't really want you to know what they ultimately teach.

[rue]

Except in the most benign and general way, I don’t accept any delineations within God’s church. Teachings are either biblical or not.