Determinism vs Free Will | Jordan Peterson

Dr. Jordan B Peterson is a Professor of Psychology, a clinical psychologist, a public speaker and a creator of Self Authoring.

[keiramamahit]

ive been watching too many free will vs determinism yt vids and now im having an existential crisis

[AmarahZahid]

Everytime I learn about determinism and free will, I get more confused 🤷‍♀️

[matthewscully]

"I was having a conversation with Sam Harris the other day" - That casual name drop though.

[jackmorton]

This concept is such a great debate - unfortunately, most people I've tried talking to about it assume I'm absolutely crazy for believing that we live in a deterministic universe rather than one with free will. I don't deny free will, just waiting for the evidence since it is technically the side of the debate which has the burden of proof.

[speedio]

I always think of Kermit when i hear his voice

[holofractalband]

Free will and determinism both exist. Thinking they are mutually exclusive is a result of the misunderstanding of the ego and self as a seperate identity and originator of action.

[Botzystudios]

Consciousness is possibly the most abstract thought. Determinism is an interesting concept, although science takes the best answer (at the time) and claims it as truth. Which is cool, although it’s not a stable construct.

As long as we know it’s not absolute rather then the best guess. It gives us a chance to dissect it. Some people claim determinism as truth and live by it, and get extremely depressed.

When in all actuality, it’s just a concept, I believe in free will and God. I cannot explain God on paper, but the accounts and the evidence I’ve seen In my own life is undeniable. I cannot un-see it, but I also enjoy the abstract.

[firstandforever]

Robert Sapolsky and Jordan Peterson should have a conversation about this topic.

[nathanx.]

Holy shit! I was thinking this exact question when I was about 7 or 8. I remember arguing with my mom that I don’t really have “another” way of living. Like I’m just gonna follow this fixed path until I die. Whatever I do, all my decisions, actions are purely based on my gene and the environment I grew up with. I had no idea this random thought of mine has a name. After a couple years I forgot about it and now I’m 20 and am in college. I was watching a video of Ben Shapiro debating someone and he mentioned this word determinism. I’m not sure what does it mean so I looked it up on YouTube and found this video. It brings back all the memory 10 years ago :). I don’t know how to describe my feelings now but it does feel very special.

[cozyslor]

Even in 2017, nobody needed a key chain like that on their hip.

[luisaraujo]

It seems to me that the determinist argument mainly says that we haven't found free will rather than saying it doesn't exist. As in, every event CAN be explained as inevitable interactions between all KNOWN physical components of reality across time via cause and effect. However it is possible that free will does exist in reality and that it even might have some measurable quality to it but we just don't know what it is.


Human beings are flawed and we don't know everything (or maybe even anything).


The point is saying that you can't possibly have free will because every decision you make can be explained as being a combination of your genetics (which you didn't chose) and your environment (which you didn't chose), isn't actually eliminating the possibility of free will it is simply providing a possibility of it not existing.




I think. I will say now. I have no idea what I'm talking about.

[adamlarsen]

Respect to the professor for putting clips of monster at the end

[ennuied]

What if the part of us that has free will is not the part that experiences it cognitively. Which means although it is free, it is already decided, and we experience it through flesh, cognitively, like a movie reel, we go back and forth to find changes or patters but the reel has neither end nor beginning. Which if go further explains the purpose of spiritual enlightenment, to transcend the cognition of flesh and its cycles which is samsara, and thus awaken as the universal will.

[sillynelson]

“I have free will because I have no choice but to have it.” - Christopher Hitchens

[prisTEEJvids]

I would LOVE to take a class by him!-Awesome. Thank you for the information. Great for helping towards my paper on free will.

[angelzuniga]

"It's everything at once".
Holy fuck

[imdcoolest]

What a talk. Really had to go back and read what Dan Dannet’s idea of consciousness is all about.

[baksnus]

Do you know what the song is at the end?

[ADUAquascaping]

When I had a waking grand mal seizure I was aware of my brain malfunctioning. We are separate from our brain. There was me thinking clearly while my brain was not working. I was also hitting my face and head. I hit my head so hard that I put a big cut in my eyebrow such as if you were in a fight, but I was unaware of this happening. I wasn't aware of my body malfunctioning, but knew that my brain was malfunctioning. I was separate from both my body and my brain.

[bacchanal]

I think JP drives a VW judging from his key change.