I Asked Massad Ayoob About Saying Nothing

Attitude. Skills. Plan.

[lostpyper]

I love his final point. Carrying doesn’t make you a Superman. If your head isn’t in the right place, and you can’t control your emotions under stress, you are potentially a danger to yourself and others. Keeping cool can keep you from even having to “defend your actions “

[MarcVictorAttorneyForFreedom]

With all due respect to Massad, who I continue to respect, I disagree for several reasons based upon my representing people in gun cases for the past 26 years. I'd be happy to have a friendly round table discussion on the issue!

[MegaMAWG]

My CCL instructor said the process begins with the 911 call. Anything you say to them can also be used against you. Just tell them there's been a firearm incident, please send police. Call your attorney while they're in route, and if your attorney has a call service, don't say anything to them because they are not protected by attorney/client privilege. If you can get your attorney on the phone before police arrive, he/she can guide you exactly what to say or not say.

[beagles]

After listening to all this--Now i can understand why lawyers advise saying nothing until you speak to lawyer. Simple.

[BellDavidE]

Thanks for recording this! People will agree or disagree and each will have to make that personal decision, but I applaud you for having Ayoob defend his position.

[magnanimus]

To review:
1) Establish the active dynamic (i.e. you are the victim and acted in self defense)
2) Confirm dynamic ("I will testify against him")
3) Point out the evidence
4) Point out the witnesses
5) "You will have my full cooperation after I have spoken with counsel" and now shut up

[guitchess]

In short, the brief fight for your life with your weapon won't be nearly as scary, dangerous, or drawn out as the following battle. You took them out of the loop by protecting yourself. So they now have to punish you with their unlimited resources.

[JoshuaFinancialPL]

unfortunately it seems like perpetrators have more rights than victims in our justice system. i'll take my chances being silent and talking with my attorney first.

[douggerber]

Be the first to call 911, Identify yourself as the victim, then say I'll wait for my lawyer.

[timothysherrange]

You should have a round table discussion on this topic with Massad, Marc, and Terry.

[franksaxton]

I am former Military and have held a CHL in numerous States for most of my life. I am now 75 years old. I train often and it is very high quality training. I am also a motorcycle Biker and frequently go to seminars to learn how to interact with police during traffic stops. I've also attended a few "adjudicator" training courses where you experience real life examples of shoot/no-shoot situations. Still, having to shoot someone in civilian life and dealing with the aftermath is something I don't look forward to. This was a very valuable video for me and I wish all my NRA course participants spent time watching clips like these. Great job and thanks!

[RandomSpaceMonkeys]

Anything you say can and WILL be used AGAINST you in a court of law. And we all know how honest our court systems is.

[pbp]

1. Establish the active dynamic
2. Reinforce active dynamic: I will testify against him
3. Point out evidence
4. Point out witnesses
5. Officer, you will have my full cooperation after I’ve spoken with counsel

[curtwhite]

Thank you Pom for sponsoring this channel. I carry Pom OC spray every day. I was proud during training over the weekend when the instructor asked what non-lethal tools the students had, I held up my Pom and looked around to realize that I was the only one.

[bungalowmo]

WOW!!! This was really great to know. Good things to help, should the circumstances arise. Not too much, but just some main points to let the cops know of your intent to assist, but also not more than they need to hear, or more than you need to say.
I've been keeping a binder of key things learned here on Extra, and ASP original. I hear it, I write it, I say it out loud. It helps me retain info.

[gscop]

I know it is tough to do in a short video, but one issue with the "limited statement" given to responding officers is That You Cannot Stop The Officer's Questions while you are giving your I think that is why a lot of good defense attorneys counsel for you to say nothing. Telling a story to officials is a Learned Skill Set. Thanks For Your Great Work !

[bearly]

My CCW Instructor, a County Sheriffs Deputy, told us to just repeat "I had to stop the attack". But I like the statement that "Officer you will have my complete cooperation after I have spoken with council", that really sets the stage in my opinion.

[mason]

"Anything you say can and will be used AGAINST you." Not for you. Also Being mute does not envoke your fifth amendment. You must state you envoke it.

[danconatser]

Been watching your videos for years, and they are great. But now that you have had Mas on your channel, you have a new subscriber. Today, there are way too many videos about tacticool gear and zombie toys. So your channel is a refreshing change. Took my first class with Mas over 20 yrs ago. Mas is absolutely the best trainer ever, and I still have all my notes. EVERYONE with a CCW permit should be REQUIRED to take his class, or at least watch every Mas video you can find. and yes, his videos from the 1980s are still being reposted. Plus, buy and read all his books!

[mdfogarty]

Good on you for giving Massad Ayoob time on your channel. A wise friend pointed me in his direction back around 1990 when I was taking an interest in self-defense. He's the real deal.