The Case Of Nice Guy Anthems

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Charlie's explanation here is what's wrong with "nice guys". Stop being "nice" and be honest. There are women out there who want quick hook ups too. Be honest with yourself and connect with like-minded women. Stop pretending to be patient, then getting frustrated when you think your patience isn't "rewarded" fast enough.

BlueShockwave
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4:47 so crass. "I would never get what I wanted out of her"...

elianap
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I have the feeling this kind of singer was more predominant between 2014-2017

j.damianc.r.
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That Charlie Puth interview was cringe as hellll 😭

azeeza
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Treat You Better is basically if “I can fix her” was a song

koko
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“Treat You Better” is playing at my work as I'm watching this video 💀

ChanelleFT
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lol as soon as I saw the title I thought of One Call Away

adidi_here
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I'd argue that "Cooler Than Me" doesn't qualify as Nice Guy anthem becomes there's not even a Nice Guy thin veil there, just the spite all the way through.

paulojrneto
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I find that a lot (if not all) of these "Nice Guys Finish Last" songs are disguised narcissism.

"I'm the one you should be with"
"He treats you badly but you would be my Queen"
"Why don't you notice me?"

That's a lot of I's and me's in songs like this.

smallcd
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This year I realised Mario was the founder because of let me love you

"If I was your man baby u never worry bout what I do"

So_Jaded_underrated
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THANK YOU!!! I never liked that Shawn Mendes song because of that. It didn't sound as he being worried about the girl being beaten up by her current boyfriend, it sounded like him being all whiny about her not being with HIM who could treat her better... BUT NO!!! She was stupid enough to choose the other guy and not value how nice Shawn is *smh*
All can be summerised in one line: "you should be with me instead"

ChicaArgentina
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Charlie Puth is an awkward kid who never had the charisma to pull a girl, so fame made it easy. When the fame and the nice guy persona he uses to coax a girl into bed don’t work, he’s a child having a tantrum and “how dare this girl not want me?! I told her how nice I am! My interviews make me seem really nice!” Charlie is just a mini creep with fam

EffRoccoevaElmo
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Remember when Jade Thirlwall just looked at Charlie Puth during a performance and he thought she was signalling interest? Ew.

Krissy_
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Listen you have to watch out for anyone that plays into a stereotype. I’ve met nice guys who are genuinely nice and others who are real snakes. Remember when we thought Drake was a nice guy….right

kennethiavail
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the way charlie was talking about that experience with whatever women he's referring to is so ridiculous and also exemplifies the core problem with the "i'm a nice guy" philosophy. they are all SO caught up in trying to fuck that they literally don't even realize it when a woman is genuinely trying to connect with them on an emotional level. "sleeping over" with "nothing happening" "so many times" means she actually likes you as a PERSON. she CARES about you. she TRUSTS you. she is trying to get to know you better and be your friend and connect on an emotional level. first of all, these are the foundations of healthy relationships, especially ones that last for a long time. second of all, even if she is not actually interested in pursuing a romantic relationship with you, a woman who is acting like this can turn into a genuine friend you can turn to in times of need and enjoy spending time with doing low-key stuff. either way, actually respecting the woman in these situations is what is going to improve your life. they are going to become your friends and possibly a girlfriend. not just someone you hook up with. but charlie puth is too busy trying to fuck to form a genuine connection and when someone apparently tried to do that with him he saw it as getting snubbed from a hook up.

ishathakor
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I'm sorry- he said "get what I wanted out of her"?

chadchadrik
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Enrique Iglesias’s Hero (2001) and some other songs should be included, my God how self aggrandizing, overly dramatic and grating, about how he can be the hero and kiss away the pain. Pair it with his songs “Escape” (2002) about how the woman can run, she can hide but she can’t escape his love literally in the chorus, all made up to seem all cute but the creepy keeps showing up. And last but not least “Love to see you cry” (2002), he does not know why but he loves to see her cry, as he is clearly singing about inflicting emotional pain and abuse, released after “Hero”. All of these are tracks on his album “Escape”, but usually it evades criticism about being a creepy nice guy incel because only “Hero” and “Escape” had airplay in the USA, while “Love to see you cry” was limited to Europe.

pinksparkle
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One Direction had a chokehold on this type of songs in 2011-2013 and my middle school self would talk about them like if they were fine art☠️ WMYB is honestly one of the least outrageous ones on this topic, the ones I remember the most are More Than This and I Would but there are soooo many more

daniluna
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The calm delivery of saying he’s the equivalent of the where’s my hug guy 😂😂😂😂

rissaxo
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I HATED that one direction song. I would turn the radio every time it came on, and I was THEE target audience. Why do people want little girls to be insecure so badly that they write a song for a boy band to sing to praise them for it? I’ve always been naturally very self-assured (thank God), and it just rubbed me the wrong way, even as a preteen.

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