The Trinity Is Not A Problem!

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Does the Trinity contradict? Was it invented at the council of Nicea? Dr. Fred Sanders, author of The Deep Things of God: How the Trinity Changes Everything, addresses these questions and other top questions about this unique Christian view of God.

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Amen! Jesus I’m crying out to you. Please hear my cries. I’m struggling with my faith. I knew when I found Jesus my life wouldn’t be easy because I would have to give up on my sinful life style and follow him. I’m a single mother struggling to make ends meet. Since covid I have been struggling to get back on my feet. I lost my job for declining the vaccine. I declined due to my pre existing health conditions, lupus and heart disease so now I’m having a hard time providing for my children. Both of my sons are special needs. I’m overwhelmed I started homeschooling them due to bullying. I’m waitressing and I’m happy to be back working but I’m not making nearly enough to get by. I have nowhere to turn no family nor friends. No hope. I have been put down and mocked, over my situation. Prayers are all I want. I’m so ashamed and so embarrassed so please be kind. Every month I struggle with my children I’m barely making it. But I still keep faith. Praise Jesus. Please hear my prayers. I have faith God will continue to provide.

ChildofGod
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The Trinity had never been a problem for me since I did physics at school. There are plenty of weird things that scientists accept as true that don’t seem to make much sense at first. Quantum mechanics and wave-particle duality come to mind. If they can accept those things that are difficult to explain, then I can accept the Trinity.
Why should I, a finite mortal, be able to easily understand the nature of the infinite immortal?

Asher
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“My thoughts are nothing like your thoughts, ” says the lord.     “And my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine.
For just as the heavens are higher than the earth,     so my ways are higher than your ways     and my thoughts higher than your thoughts.
“The rain and snow come down from the heavens     and stay on the ground to water the earth. They cause the grain to grow,     producing seed for the farmer     and bread for the hungry.
It is the same with my word.     I send it out, and it always produces fruit. It will accomplish all I want it to,     and it will prosper everywhere I send it.

Isaiah 55:8-11 NLT

rockscorpion
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Sean McDowell For the Trinity "not a problem" that took a lot of complicated waffling.
Unfortunately for the trinitarian you must engage in this merry dance in order to prove this non biblical doctrine.

TheCaledonianBoy
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Who decides what concepts are accepted if the words are not written

dagnonmondy
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Definitely long over due. Thanks Sean. I appreciate your ministry.

jeffdowns
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I have never heard such thought and verbal gymnastics.
Right from the beginning saying that the word bible is not used in the bible as an example to explain why the word trinity is not in the bible is disingenuous.. The word bible (Byblos) describes what it is and not any of its contents. A Dickens novel is a book even though the word book doesn't appear in its pages. I'm afraid It doesn't get any better after that nonsense.

ashthebash
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1 Cor. 8:6 is the oldest recorded Christian creedal statement and directly contradicts the Trinity. Anything beyond that is from the wicked one.

unletteredandordinary
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The God of Jesus is not a three person being. Since there is only one true God, how is it that you have a God which Jesus does not?

TheTrinityDelusion
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You’re upping your thumbnail game, man! I love it!

nichetcher
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Thank you Sean McDowell, timely, relevant topic. Another great guest.

darrenmiller
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Well, if logic and reason is an appropriate tool for discerning truth from error, this argument matters:

1. There is only 1 Most High God.
2. The Father is the Most High God.
3. Jesus is not the Father.
4. Therefore, Jesus is not the Most High God.

The argument is valid and sound.

Modalists can reject premise 3.

But what premise can Trinitarians reject?

Contradictions are falsehoods. God doesn't want us believing in falsehoods:)

Respectfully, brothers, both Scripture and logic are against this teaching.

BreakingBreadwithBurke
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For there is *one God and one mediator between God* and men, the man Christ Jesus. 1 Timothy 2:5

BigTimeFaith
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Well, I'll at least give you guys credit for tacitly admitting that 1) there's a big problem in logic here, and 2) finding the Trinity in the Bible is difficult.... So at least you showed some honesty here. Some. But then it's an uphill battle making sense of this dogma.

Fortunately for me, I was raised by people who were agnostics and Unitarians, so I never had to buy into this stuff. Thank you, God, for that! Praise God for giving me a brain, so I could reject propositions such as "1 = 3" just as I reject "P and not P."

brianover_reviews
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I am amazed that two educated men thinks that the Trinity of the Church has anything to do with the God of Israel.

GENESIS-
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You can believe whatever you want, but that does not make it more true.

GENESIS-
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One of the primary reasons why this is confusing for humans is because we are one being (human) with one personhood (Sean, Fred, etc.). God is not like us in this regard, in that He is one being with three personhoods. Thus, we struggle to understand this, which is both logical and reasonable since this relates to God; divinity cannot be dissected and fully understood by a creature.

Mairiain
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Every time I hear someone try to explain the 3 in 1 trinity I get a huge headache. It just absolutely makes zero sense that Jesus speaks to himself in the Bible.

jeffreyblanton
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Great stuff brothers, stay encouraged!
3 dimensional beings… trying to describe our triune, loving God, who created time, space and all matter.
What an amazing thing that He stepped into His creation, to reveal Himself to us, and pay the price that we may come to know and love Him back

KerryLiv
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If it needs an hour to explain a bible teaching .. something is wrong.

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