'Justification by Faith' explained with NT Wright

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Tom 'NT' Wright answers listeners questions on some of the the Apostle Paul's most misinterpreted scriptures in the book of Romans and Galatians.

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The show that connects you to NT (Tom) Wright’s thoughts and theology through your questions. Produced by Premier Unbelievable in partnership with SPCK and NTWrightOnline.

About NT (Tom) Wright: Tom Wright is one of the world’s leading New Testament scholars and the author of numerous books including Surprised by Hope, The Day The Revolution Began, Paul: A Biography and most recently Jesus and the Powers. He will be on the Unbelievable show talking about this very soon. Tom Wright is senior research fellow at Wycliffe Hall, University of Oxford. Wright is ordained in the Church of England and, among other roles, served as Bishop of Durham between 2003 – 2010. He is much in demand as a lecturer around the world and the author for the bestselling For Everyone commentary series and the New Testament For Everyone Bible translation.

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I was so confused with these questions many years. He explained 500years of law vs faith confusion in a simplest way. Just thank god for NT Wright..

rajeshvidyut
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We need to address what questions we bring to the text and ask ourselves what questions is the text trying to answer. The ancient Israelites and first century Jews were not concerned about “how do I go to heaven?” They were focused on God as King and restoration of the whole earth and humanity as His image bearers. It then becomes easier to see the discussion around the Greek and Hebrew words translated so often as faith being more commonly understood as faithfulness or loyalty or allegiance. Those concepts go very nicely with the image of God as King, as having a kingdom, He has messengers that spread the good news (a technical term for when a king has a child, comes to the throne, wins a great battle). You are not saved by believing something to be true, you are in God kingdom by being a loyal subject to His commands and trusting in Him beyond what you may see and feel in this life.

This is a powerful and meaningful difference that have major knock on effects for how we live our lives.

randomname
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Am I the only one who really likes Tom Wright but actually thinks he's sort of bad at clearly explaining things out loud? He has British elegance in speech but it's often ten levels of metaphors and cute innuendo.

philoshua
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There are three witnesses to our faith, and three jurisdictions one for each witness, and atonement comes by Triple Justification; in baptism, sanctification and judgement.

simonskinner
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I like where Wright goes on this. To add to the discussion, shouldn't we admit that "justification by faith" is something of an oxymoron? Justification as we think of it is all about reason or law. Faith, by definition, requires no real justification.

So when Paul ends up arguing justification through law against grace through faith, he's really defining the difference between two dynamics.

tedclemens
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Then why did Christ have to die? Even if we weren’t concerned with going to heaven, the first century Jews were greatly concerned with sin and holiness, and reconnection with God through the Holy Spirit.

pumpkin
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Being justified by the Father is baptism into the church and covenant, it is not salvation as atonement is a promise for those sanctified in the church.

simonskinner
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It's often overlooked that a ministry of the cross, of the gospel, is a breaking down of the middle wall between Jew and Gentile. Eph 2v14

glowmentor
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So wait, if justification is not about how to get to heaven, then how does one get to heaven?

bc_modern
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No one is fooled by this. You cannot give an ecclesiastical answer to a question about salvation. Simply ignore NT Wright when it comes to the Pauline corpus.

Benjamin-fuij
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This man NEVER gives a clear answer. He purposefully obfuscates the truth with his rhetoric.

adamgilbert
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Justified by a letter Paul didn’t write. Sounds about right. Whether the bible is true or not, the idea that you are forgiven on the basis of what you believe & condemned if you don’t believe, is vile. The God of the bible is a monster

realLsf
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NT Wright...the guy that doesn't believe in penal substitution..heretic.

Gabriel