Why I'm Not Eastern Orthodox ☦️

Why I'm not Eastern Orthodox

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[domingodeguzman]

I love being a Filipino Roman Catholic🇵🇭🇻🇦

[charless]

Reasons I’m Orthodox and not Catholic:
1) Vatican 1 defined papacy just simply did not exist in the first millennium Church. The Vatican itself has even admitted to this fact in its 2023 Alexandria document (parts 0.1 to 1.3, and 5.1 to 5.4), and in its 2016 Chieti document (parts 2, 3, 13, 16 and especially 19). The early Church knew no such thing as a single bishop having unilateral universal jurisdiction over the other bishops—and we know that the Church is “the pillar and ground of the truth” (1Tim3:15).

2) Roman Catholic dogma changes…even on matters as important as salvation. Roman Catholics went from dogmatically teaching strict, literal, no salvation outside of communion with Bishop of Rome [4th Lateran Council canon 1+its dozens of supporting Papal encyclicals], to now dogmatically teaching that Jews and Muslims hold to the “same faith as Abraham” [Lumen Gentium point 16, and Nostra Aetate from Vatican 2 point 3], and non-Roman Catholics are now venerated as Roman Catholic Saints somehow [21 Coptic Martyrs, Orthodox St Sergius of Radonezh, etc.]. How could the “one true Church” acknowledge other churches as being true churches? This is self-refuting.

3) If someone wants to be in the one Church that Jesus Christ himself established in 1st century Jerusalem, his only two serious options are Eastern Orthodox or Roman Catholic. Roman Catholics acknowledge the real presence of Christ in the Eastern Orthodox Eucharist, but Eastern Orthodox do not recognize the validity of the Roman Catholic Eucharist. And if we have ever read John6:53-54, we know not to play games or take any risks with the Eucharist.

May the Holy Trinity guide us all in all things, and lead us into all truth through the prayers of our holy fathers ☦️

[[EDIT: The Orthodox Church is the continuation of the incarnation. “the body of Christ, the FULLNESS OF HIM Who fills all in all”. Ecclesiology is inextricably linked to Christology, because the Church is the Body of Christ. And see how St. Paul says that Christ and the Church become one flesh—even as man and women become one flesh in marriage (Eph5:31-32). And even St. Paul—this great teacher of the world—calls the mystical union of the Church and Christ “a GREAT mystery”. Any critique of the Orthodox Church’s normative authority would also be a critique inherent to the mystery of the incarnation itself. The blood of Christ courses through the veins of the communing members of the Orthodox Church.
If someone takes issue with the Orthodox Church having the authority to make infallible decisions, then they must also take issue with Christ having the authority to make infallible decisions, because Christ is the Head of the Church. The Church is incarnational, not theoretical—Thank God.]]

[paulhagen]

Go to a Orthodox liturgy before writing it off. Most parishes arent ethnic enclaves, its a good time.

[basilmakedon]

love your vids!
From an Orthodox Christian
Btw, the Orthodox churches in the USA (I'm assuming ur American) seem ethnic because they were largely established to serve diaspora communities. The autocephalous OCA (Orthodox Church in America) is blossoming.
In all reality, your ethnicity plays very little a role in choosing a parish. If someone were to ask me "should I go to a Russian, Greek, Serbian, or OCA parish?" I would say whichever one is closest and has Liturgy in your language.
God bless!

[dabarefootbombshell]

I'm African American and converted to Eastern Orthodox. The parish I go to is Greek and I definitely don't feel like an outsider. We are One. We have to lay things at the cross to follow Jesus for the truth and for some of us we will need to lay down our culture. No one in my family is Orthodox but I couldn't ignore the call. Following Christ shouldn't be about what's comfortable.

[SamandarMoses]

I also go to Byzantine liturgy but am roman Catholic. Based and red pilled.

[WillGaylord]

Aye, if you actually read this, as an Orthodox convert myself:
1. Peter is understood in exactly that way, but he is the "first among equals." The Bishop of Rome had that exactly that special place until The Great Schism. And we still recognize the office of the Bishop of Rome as of great significance, even if we're out of Communion.
2. Here in the States there are lots of Russian Orthodox of America churches full of converts too. I fit right in even to an Antiochian Orthodox Church that is majority convert.
3. Listen to The Lord of Spirits podcast! Listen to Jonathan Pageau and his podcast The Symbolic World! They're geared towards inquirers.

[AnDrEi_aLeXaNdRu]

As an Eastern Ortodox you will never be an out sider . Just think about it why did the people that the russians(Kievan Rus-Russian Empire) convert didn't felt as outsiders and they were converted in a peacefull way not like the outher colonialist Empires

[wildhunt]

That’s some of the reasons I’m planning on converting to Catholicism rather than Orthodox. I just wish that there were eastern Catholic Churches in my area.

[DavinaMaryMagdalene]

hey, I'm Asian :) I was born and raised Roman Catholic, but converting to the Orthodox Church. Your reasons are super valid I lab for the Catholic Church and if that is where you want to stay, then I believe that is where the Holy Spirit wants you to stay. but....if you're ever getting curious again, just know that they are not as intimidating as you would think they are. 🤍 I don't speak Russian either, but I go to an orthodox church that is labeled as Russian. We speak English there :)
a lot of the orthodox churches in America are are simply just Russian or Greek because of the founders and their backgrounds when they were first built .

similar to Latin used in Catholic masses, the language you hear being said in Divine Liturgy isn't Russian but it's actually just church Slavonic so it can sound intimidating, but it isn't anything different than Latin in the Catholic church. ☦️🙏🏻 peace to you, brother in Christ and I enjoy your content never stop speaking about our Lord !

[dansedevie]

I'm a Latin Catholic who goes to a Byzantine Catholic church regularly and your first reason makes sense to me. However, 2 and 3 could also be said about Eastern Catholicism. Despite the parish being very ethnic, they have been very welcoming, and I love learning about the east!

[LeBozo]

Brother the Orthodox Church is for every ethnicity and very welcoming for all people there are English parishes throughout North America

[chloebanks]

The original church had 7 deacons (church leaders) Acts 6:1-7. The church was this way for 1000 years until the Pope of Rome decided himself that he was the universal bishop of the Church which the others rejected 🙅‍♀️ as it was set to be multiple from the beginning. Therefore he changed Jesus’s disciples decision of multiple leaders, also writting this Matt 18:20 comes to me- “ for where two or three are gathered in my name, there I am among them” so since Jesus is the head of the church, it makes sense for the leaders of the church to be 2 or more. This way you don’t get the leader saying all love is love ❤️ but preaching the truth ❤

[kevlare-]

1. Saint John Chrysostom, Homily Number 54. Also the bishop of Antioch could make the same claims as the pope as Peter was also first bishop of Antioch.
2. I’m Eastern Orthodox, go to a very hardcore traditional Russian church. And they welcomed me with much love and open arms and here’s the kicker I’m not even Russian, Greek, or even Slavic of any type. Literally just a garden variety German Irish American. And they even do the liturgy in half English and Slavonic.
3. Before you commit to the Eastern Catholics, AT LEAST stop in an Orthodox Church and speak to a priest, if you don’t like it okay. And I’d recommend a Russian parish if you can.

[isaacsingleton]

I'm a protestant so not like I have any stake in the game, but I have a friend who's Orthodox and he's a half-white half New Guinean guy married to an African-American woman. And whenever I've visited I've met Asians, Middle'Easterners, and other black people there. On top of the mix of various European-Americans. So I feel like reason 2 isn't really as big of a deal as you'd think.

[JayRedding_]

This answers my curious question. Reason number one is the same reason I'm not Orthodox. Plus, according to the Church Fathers the papacy is a historical fact.

[KyleNewsom-vx]

I'm a Jewish Irish pole born in America and attend a Russian church it's jurisdiction not race based just an excuse

[loveinpeace]

Yesss I found that out too about Orthodox churches around me there are Serbian, Macedonian, Egyptian, and Greek. I would definitely stick out like a sore thumb lol but I'm interested

[dam]

It's not just ethical thing orthodoxy, it's for every nation, just here we have established communities from generations. There are American Orthodox ☦️

[LunerCat-jemy]

I did not know the Orthidox churches were based on Ethnicity you learn something new everyday 🙂