The Need for Postmaterialist Science with Stephan A. Schwartz

Here he explains why materialism is an inadequate foundation for describing the findings of science. He draws upon many disciplines to argue and consciousness is primary and that we are living within a matrix of conscious life.

00:00:00 Introduction
00:04:23 Psychic archeology
00:11:47 Physicalist interpretations
00:25:32 Scientific revolutions
00:31:53 The origin of materialism in the Inquisition
00:37:01 The matrix of consciousness
00:42:08 Computers and consciousness
00:50:27 The crucial role of parapsychology
00:59:31 Consciousness outside of spacetime
01:06:55 Conclusion

New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in "parapsychology" ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death.

(Recorded on September 2, 2024)

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[dancestudent]

Brilliant and full of life and light! So impressed with the numinous consciousness and focused coherence of both of you in this expansive discussion which super-charges the Mind and activates the Heart. Jeffrey, just so grateful for all of your many years of fruitful service to humanity. And Stephan, I love your books and continue to learn from your guest appearances on public programs such as this. Many blessings to you both.

[joanhartman]

Yes, a "remarkable conversion"! I could listen to Stephan Schwartz all

[MissionMan]

Brilliant, wonderful. What a delightful discussion between two giants of contemporary science in consciousness. Thank you Stephan, thank you Jeffrey. 💚

[danielduarte]

It was superb as usual. Stephan is one of my favourite guests, and I'm really glad to know he's doing well. Thank You, Jeffrey and The NTA team.

[davidsillars]

Stephan's research is fantastic, keeps these extraordinary phenomena real! Wonderful interview.

[janedoe]

i thank you both for this wonderful conversation!

[yancym.]

This interview got Spicy. Mr. Schwartz provides fascinating stories in the world Psi. Thank you to New Thinking Allowed for continuing to bring enriching perspectives to a greater audience. Perhaps, this channel helps lead the shift in consciousness seen in the 2050-2060 study.

[jojoy]

Wonderful interview. Thankyou. Historically significant indeed ❤

[Susan_F]

I enjoy these conversations so much! Thank you both for sharing your ideas with us.

[kymchessall]

Brilliant as always Thanks Guys you are LOVED

[metacomputics]

More and more scientists are beginning to realise that Simulation Theory is the next science paradigm. Stephan said (1:10) "What we are dealing with is something like a video game". Well done, Stephan, You are getting there!

[brandyfr]

Excellent Interview; I thank both of you . Appreciated.

I just want to add that I support Mr.Scwartz ideas on Consciousness, in respect to immense datas. However even one day materialistic approach will be able to highlight such "phenomenons"; it will not be the "materialism of today".

What I wanna say is that; there will be many new paradigms, new concepts ( things like "quantum theory" . Think please, the way that it disturbed classical science ) and even I can say a new and "strange materialism" compared to one of today which will not contradict Mr Schwatz but appreciate his contributions and you too as well Mr Mishlove.

Thanks again., it was a pleasure to watch you both !.

[sandragoncalves]

How difficult, in many aspects, this interview must have been and felt. Thank you, it is a meetting of brilliant beings doing their best to address non-locality while physically set in time, biology and their contingences. If at all possible, it would be geat to explore and bring to light Prof Schwartz's research on what hits humanity during the following decades .

[georgitchkhaidze]

It's always a pleasure listening to you two together. Nobel Prize winner Anton Zeilinger believes that elementary particles and information are indivisible. That information is as fundamental as energy and mass. So we are seeing an extension of the scientific revolution that began with quantum physics a hundred years ago and will soon lead to a universal paradigm shift.

[stefanieconklin]

Good for you Jeff! You challenged him and your debate skills are top notch! Probably better now than when you were younger.

[brandonb]

Great talk guys! I agree with Stephan’s research in accordance with remote viewing of static material. But I also agree with the precog “time loop” hypothesis as far as determining future EMOTIONAL events, or “feeling” your future reaction.
It seems a bit “materialistic” to say one is correct and one is not, when they are really two different things.
🤔✌🏼🤙🏼

[perpetualmotion]

If I possessed some of these psychic abilities, I don't think I'd come forward about it. I probably would've as a young adult but now being in my early 40's I'd rather keep it to myself. I wouldnt trust government/military motives that may want to dig their claws into me. If I knew it wouldnt go any further than the lab I'd probably be ok with it but we all know that wouldn't happen. Your health could be in jeapordy.

[RickDelmonico]

Einstein's illusion quote was from a letter regarding the death of a loved one.

[worthlessendeavors]

Any chance NTA will be reviewing Elly Flippen’s new book?