Indoctrinated No More: Leaving AA &12 Step Programming

Listen in as Ash talks about her Process through the Journey of Self Discovery to a New Way of Life without Labels, Guilt, Shame & Fear. Check out Ash @ Indoctrinated No More on Facebook, Instagram & YouTube.

[Levi-ynx]

Hey ash !! I am from AZ to! I love Jerome, im from Payson and also am leaving AA

[christopherrooney]

There is definitely an indoctrination when it comes to the AA program. You are totally correct with that analysis. I like what was said about the sponsors who are in some power trio and attempt to run or direct peoples lives. I was definitely abused by a sponsor who had alternative motives who I had trusted. Good luck everyone and take care ... :)

[Sharron-io]

Hi Bobby C I took a break from deprogramming but I'm back on channels again Both good and bad things have happened on my break .One of my cats died I was devastated but I didn't drink and i had to report a neighbour to my landlord. I have been to the coast on holiday with my sister I went to the bar of the hotel with her everyone was drinking apart from me I didn't . I now know that I can stay off alcohol without any addiction type of help . This is a good video thank you for the video.❤

[stephenmansfield]

I found it interesting at one point Bobby talks about “psychological and emotional abuse”. During the last few days I’ve been recalling my spell in the charismatic and Pentecostal churches. Coming out of that particular area of cultishness I recall coming across some discussion of “spiritual abuse” which, from memory, spoke about the use of leadership roles in church to exert influence on parishioners. There are, of course, well known differences between church and AA, however, it seemed telling to me that those same issues were coming up again in AA - for me at least.

[Sharron-io]

If you get vocal around your issues with them they turn on you . I was vocal they hate me your doing ok ash thankyou for speaking out ❤

[outtosea]

I tried to brainwash myself into accepting 12 step BS on and off for years - not only did it not keep me clean, it made me feel like a failure. A lot of the higher up sponsors I met there were the most arrogant and dysfunctional chain smokers Ive ever met. I was healthier on drugs. Thanks and peace

[larrypicard]

So I was in AA for a bit. I’ve not had anything to drink for almost five years until lately. I’ve enjoyed some wine with friends at dinner with no repercussions. I mean I’m not running out to buy bottles to drink at home. I don’t think though I could drink hard liquor and don’t really want to find out.

[travisclymer]

AA is a decent step along the way to true recovery. I find a lot of sick narcissists in AA though. I found true sobriety and recovery on my own without AA. AA has too many sickos and egos.

[helenab]

I left a year ago after 26 years continuous sobriety. I was spellbound by psych meds the whole time. After I got off them I discovered no one wanted to hear that medication is not an outside issue. Or that the iatrogenic injury akathisia, caused by 40, 000 different prescription medications (and alcohol) in its mildest form is a feeling of being restless irritable and discontent. I was told I was dangerous. Someone even told me I was now in a “anti Pharma” cult. Only one friend has kept in contact and he keeps trying to get me to come back even tho I’ve never been happier. So I’m going back to my home group this weekend one of the biggest meetings in London to do the chair for him and officially say goodbye- try and wake up a few people as I do it!

[JamesDevine-jz]

Ive recebtly left both AA and CA AA for 18yrs on n off ca a cple of times some very dangerouis people in those rooms

[juliewillis]

I guess I also was so vulnerable. My dad died, I took or tried to take care of him too much alone..I knew by maybe my instincts, thst I knew there was no one to comfort me or talk to me. So sober house without my choice.

[MichaelAlbrecht-dz]

I saw so many things from both the male and female and alternative groups

l avoided the steps( thank god)
I am now well out of it.Just go your own way people
And take care of yourselves..Stay well

[juliewillis]

I wish i had someone to talk to about recovering from aa

[juliewillis]

Thank u guys. I always had a spirit of curiousity. And questions. I cant change aa or siciety but i will not ever do aa or even celebrate recovery...doesnt help me.

[kwAnthony]

Plot twist- the program is actually the disease and not alcohol.

[AnthonyBelgrove]

Does anyone have a link to the story Bill Wilson told about when he was in college, how he solved a math problem that no one else could? I can't find it, help me!

[lillylovel]

Just commenting on part about "there are bed people everywhere" That's true except the rooms are saturated with them. Very small space occupied by mentally and emotionally disturbed people. It's suffocating and dangerous.

[juliewillis]

Thank u. I was too scared to speak out.

[Miss-Placed.]

I hate the sobriety counter it makes me feel like a failure 😒

[danjoyce]

Now sruff Bobby c what happened to the interview we did?