Talking About Romans 9 And Calvinism With Alana L

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Discussing Romans 9 and Calvinism with Alana L.

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Such a great point - Paul didn’t include the chapter breaks and is talking to the same people in Romans 11. Love it!

yvonnedoulos
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Hey Jordan, I recently posted a video on my channel on my de-conversion from Calvinism and I just wanted to say thank you for helping to re-understand the context and establish the heart and character of God. There’s so much that needs to be taken into account. I’m still re-learning a lot of what has been reframed under Calvinism and I find it amazing how what one thing, be a doctrine or whatever, can affect your whole view on God and everything else. I see the angle we see things really affects our perspective. I appreciate you guys making these videos and just wanted to express my thanks. God bless

Leeyum
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plan
/plan/
noun
1.
a detailed proposal for doing or achieving something.

So the details just happen somehow?

aletheia
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Anyone that doesn't understand that America is just another world power in the history of GOD'S first born son Israel has ignored what the Bible has to say . Replacement theology is ridiculous and unscriptural.

cecilspurlockjr.
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Vessels of wrath destined for destruction are our present mortal bodies
Vessels of mercy destined for glory are our resurrection bodies
That is why they are made from the exact same lump as seen in Jeremiah 18 where the potter uses the exact same clay to make a bad vessel and then a good vessel.

SpareHeadOne-ygox
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It's difficult to argue that Calvinism IS the Biblical gospel.

The Scriptures teach Jesus made propitiation for sin for ALL sinners.

Calvinism says Jesus died for FEW sinners.

primeobjective
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There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.  {Galatians 3:28-29}

Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ*

For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

Having abolished in his flesh the enmity,  even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN,  so making peace;

And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby*

And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God;
[The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun]
{Ephesians 2:11-19}

Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 

But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
{Acts 10:34-35}

Again...

But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 

For there is no respect of persons with God. 
{Romans 2:10-11}

Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel: 

Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham,  are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: are counted for the seed.
{Romans 9:6-8}

Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 

But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
{Galatians 4:28-29}

For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. 

And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and 
upon 👉the Israel of God. 
{Galatians 6:15-16}

And they [Jews] also, *if they abide not still in unbelief* shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in *again*
{Romans 11:23}

larrybedouin
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Doesn’t Romans 11 talks about God’s Gracious choice and God keeping a remnant for himself and God hardening Israel for the Gentiles to be grafted in? All of this language surely sounds like it supports Calvinism to me. What convinced me that Calvinism was indeed true was me reading Romans 8-11 over and over again. I realize I didn’t, nor any other non-Calvinist, have a sufficient response for this. These pages of scripture screams support for Calvinism. To include Ephesians 1-2; John 6, 10, 13-15, &17. Mind you, I didn’t read John Calvin until after I was completely convinced that Calvinism was true.

haiasinosdnah
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If God's plan was (only) to use Israel to include all the rest of the nations, then He would never (ever) harden anyone's heart. Anytime anyone hardened their heart, He would graciously pour on more mercy.

Yet He doesn't do that.

It doesn't seem that your theology accounts for the fact that God doesn't have to harden anyone anywhere for any reason whatsoever.

timffoster
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ALL the elect children of the promise who will eventually be born again sons of God by the will and grace of God alone ARE Israel.

Anyone NOT born again by the will and grace of God alone ARE NOT Israel.

ALL elect children of the promise, both of the Jews and the Gentiles, are Israel, and will be saved. Excluding none.

It's NOT replacement theology. It's continuation theology. It's ALWAYS been that way. Ninevah had 120, 000 elect Gentiles that ALL were granted repentance, at the same exact time, by Gods effectual grace.

I would be more than happy to educate Alana, but that's not really up to her, it's determined by the Lord if she will be receive any increase.

1 Corinthians 3:7
So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but👉 God that giveth the increase.👈

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