Sam Harris basically breaks down the secret to life (again)

5 years later and Sam does it again #shorts

Here is the first part:

Clip taken from:
"Questioning Sam Harris | Sam Harris | The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast S4: E81"

[wj]

Knowing nothing about the context of this or the original discussion, JP popping up was literally a jump scare.

[TrueMoralsOverLaws]

This really changed my perspective on the “prisoner of my thoughts” fallacy. I’m now going to treat myself like I’d treat a friend. Enlightening

[masterandobellojr]

The dry delivery of the gum drops line had me giggle out loud a bit.😂

[coastalcruise]

Sam Harris: 'If every thought that we had was externalized on a loudspeaker, every normal person would sound insane'.

[jacobl]

I respect the two for still willing to engage in important subjects despite their disagreements in certain topics

[FASTFASTmusic]

"imagine that... 🤔"

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Robert B. Waide

[billykotsos]

Marcus Aurelius Antonius - "Treat the next thought with care so that nothing irrational creeps in"

Seneca - “What progress, you ask, have I made? I have begun to be a friend to myself.”"

This kind of insight existed thousands of years ago... it just got replaced...

[ataraxia]

I have to be honest. I used be really into this mindset that you could come to a good pace in your life just but fixing your mind and how you process things but all the biggest changes in my well-being and daily mood were the result of real changes in my external environment and life. Getting over a medical problem I thought would be permanent and spending more time with friends who love me as opposed to being socially isolated. I’m not saying having a better mindset and learning to have a healthier relationship to your thought and conscious experience can’t be invaluable, just that you really shouldn’t neglect other parts of your life to feel better let alone think others can either. Please love yourself and everyone else :)

[petsol]

The thing that Sam Harris talks about around 8:30 : You would sound insane if your thougths were on a loudspeaker. You can actually read Ulysses and Finnegans Wake. Joyce used this as a novel novel technique called stream of consciousness. That is exactly what they are talking about...

[petermetcalf]

I love that Peterson has also played with this line of thinking, where an effective mental exercise to overcome negative self-talk you should treat yourself as though you're someone you're taking care of. My gf framed it in another way that I thought was so great, where if I'm really beating myself up about certain things, it isn't just that I'm hurting myself, it's the equivalent of me hurting someone she loves and that if anyone talked about me like that she wouldn't stand for it, even if it's me doing it.

[joshuapinter]

Sam’s clarity of thought is astounding. He has such a firm grasp of his idea and how to explain it.

Just wish it wasn’t cut off, as he was about to explain the second method of instead of just having more positive internal conversations, seeing internal conversations as just objects to be witnessed and not to identify with.

[OlinScharm]

Hat to crack up a bit when JP popped up suddenly lol

Good share though, TY

[cozyslor]

In my early formative years (16-25), I took a fair amount of hallucinogens. LSD, Mushrooms, Mesc, X (MDMA). No preconceived notions. No expectations except to have fun. What it did was change my perspective on life. The breaking of the Ego. The third eye. Understanding thoughts and emotions intellectually. If you can strip everyday life away for a short period of time and not be burdened by it, and with an open mind, there is a lot of self discovery to be had. You can do it without the hallucinogens, but that's a long term endeavor and not as much fun.

[mikerayco]

I've been following Sam since 2014, and the notion of non-identification with thought is something I heard before early on. It took me a while to understand it, and in one of my meditation sessions I had a glimpse of that tiny space between my consciousness and thoughts that are arising. It's a profound experience, but it's not a perennial experience.

[jupitereye]

It sounds as Sam is focusing here on the distinction between observation of the input vs. processing the input. But then he goes deeper one layer, he distinguishes input from observation of the input, then certain levels of observation... one being purely capturing the sensation (almost as if you could look at your hand but only chose to recognize base sensation of the colour and shape without giving it a meaning of any kind), then the next one is assigning the meaning of the sensation without extrapolating the purpose and context of the sensation. So he is breaking it down temporally. He is trying to observe himself and all the processes happening in his head, searching for the root if intent, out of anything contextualized. In fact, any recognition of context would push him out of the observing state, and he would have to observe what caused him to contextualize.

[theuntangledmind]

The interruptions…. Why derail Sam when there’s no chance you can add anything meaningful…

[MoisesD-qkgo]

You cannot replace bad thoughts with good thoughts, the idea of being able to do that is just another powerless thought. Thoughts appear, sometimes “positive “, sometimes “negative “, there’s noone creating them. Actually there’s noone, there’s only That What Is

[eklim]

my sincere question for Sam Haris: "would a person with trained mindfulness fare better when dimentia finally arrive? would he still have even a pinch of mindfulness left to be aware that his mind is probably in dimentia?"

[Tino_Tino_Tino]

As Peterson suggests, I don't think recursive self-referential thoughts are accounted for by different brain regions "communicating" with each other to ultimately move a behavior towards a goal.

"Well, here I am."
"What did I have for lunch again?"
"I like this song."

I think recursive thinking functions to either bootstrap or help corroborate a perspectival or social sense of self. Whether or not that function also helps bring about behavior that reaches a goal might be only incidental.

[Budwords]

I often refute what JP says I find that he talks too much to say nothing, but he made a solid point regarding Sam's example "I should go get some water" it seems logical to me that the brain's connections communicate through internal monologue And this could explain the origin of our thoughts.