How Sam Harris Feels About His Split From Jordan Peterson

Sam Harris reflects with Chris on his current relationship with Jordan Peterson. Does Sam Harris think Jordan and himself drifted apart? Does Sam Harris see a future rekindling of their public appearances soon? What does Sam Harris say about Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson discussing him on the Joe Rogan Podcast?

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[kirinkappa]

I was an atheist from the start and still am.
I've consumed about 500 hours of Sam Harris content first, then started listening to Jordan Peterson.
Harris taught me how to notice and uderstand my emotions and how to be happy with the present moment.
Peterson taught me what my long-term priorities and needs are and helped me understand how to live in a way that is more productive to society.
Listening to Harris was intelectualy stimulating, but did not really impact my life in a big way, other than making me a bit more happy in general.
Listening to Peterson completely transformed the way I live and actualy "changed my life", making me a better person in all aspects of life.

[zeno]

When Jordan was asked who his smartest opposition is, he said Sam. There is a lot of respect between the two. They're both great.

[irrelevant]

SH: Two times three equals six.
JP: Two times three equals the intangible evanescent process of unknowable numeracy linked to the transcendence of the highest hierarchical integral foundation of the ultimate structure of our being.

[alexsanoff]

Sam was my gateway into bettering my life about six years ago where he taught me to become more spiritual and subsequently spend hundreds of hours meditating. This opened my mind to the possibility of a more meaningful and purposeful life by changing my orientation to it. I then found Peterson where I spent hundreds of hours consuming his content and seeing him live, twice, and feel the development I made by listening to Sam and through meditation allowed me to deeply hear Petersons message and change the way I live my life, not just the way I feel about my life. I’ve woken up with the explicit goal of bettering myself for the sake of my future and those around me for several years now, thanks to these intellectual titans.

[EthanCalebStegall]

I used to be a hardcore Sam Harris fan, I believed him when he said free will is an illusion, while that still may be true this belief did not aid me at all, infact I believe it made me nihilistic. It wasn't until I decided to take responsibility into my own hands and believe I had a choice in my life that I was able to turn myself around. I have Jordan Peterson to thank for that. While I still respect Sam greatly (and use his awakening meditation app) I am much more of a Peterson fan now. What you believe to be surely true has far more impact on your life then what may actually be true, because it affects your choices.

[charmerci]

I wish someone like Sam would talk about Peterson before and after his severe medical problems. It seems as if JP has gone in a different direction since.

[rpmgrlca]

Respecful debate between intellects has always been a treasure. There hasn't been enough of it. These days, if people disagree they just hurl ugly insults.

[Dash]

Sam and Jordan are both brilliant in a fairly wide variety of topics. I always want to know what both of them think about issues. I also disagree with both on various things. It made me happy to hear they have no bad blood between them. At least on Sam's side.

[johnbwill]

'They needed some language to help them midwife their delivery into the clear light of reason' - this is an insightful recognition of where much of his value lands. For myself, listening to the likes of Sam, Dawkins, Hitchens and Fry, helped me clarify my thoughts on the role the religion played, and is playing in the world. I cannot thank them enough. There is no more powerful gift that I can think of, than leading others to think in a rational way.

[huskerfan-eljx]

To me Sam Harris represents knowledge and reason. Jordan Peterson represents heart and soul. We need both, but at this particular time we need Jordan Peterson just a little more.

[williamroberts]

For a guy who understands steel manning that characterization of Rogan and audience capture is a crazy statement…

[Mimi-upro]

When I found out about Sam Harris, it was such a pleasant surprise. Not that I've watched every content of his, but the ones I've seen/heard so far almost gave me the feelings as if he were reading my mind.

[bx]

We need intellectuals who can rapidly adapt and change their minds on things. Sam and Jordan debates were great because they were challenging. They should discuss NON-religious/NON-atheist topics simply due to how eloquent they both are.

[Maldoror_Ducasse]

I find amazing how Sam truly believe that he is in the 'center'.

[chrisAclaes]

I first learned of Peterson through his podcast conversation with Sam in 2017. Since then, I have been utterly mystified as to why anyone listens to him, more so as his popularity rose, and even more so as his cognitive faculties have faltered publicly. Peterson’s epistemological foundations were always unsound, and his retreat from any solid position always glaring. If he had helped you, great - but you could find better.

[Outis]

Regarding his Hunter Biden controversy, Sam said "In my world, and in every channel I care about literally nothing had happened" So, everyone around agrees with him? That sounds a lot like and echo chamber.

[Trazynn]

It's amazing how he and Maajid Nawaz started the same tour together and ended up at opposite positions on everything in the years that followed.

[gauravtee]

The irony of Sam accusing Joe and Jordan of being in an echo chamber—citing their views on mRNA and covid—while he refuses to debate literally anyone who holds those views.

[CharlesFBI]

I'll reserve judgment until the full episode, but I'm concerned. I like a lot of what Sam has said throughout the years, but I'm increasingly getting the feeling that I will never hear the words "I was totally wrong on this" from his mouth. His stance change on Biden as the adult in the room does not quite qualify.

Just like with Richard Dawkins who I also respect, what I expect from the "greatest thinkers of our time" is the ability to admit fault, straight up without excuses. However great your mind is, and however well thought out your arguments are, you are not immune from getting it wrong. I just want to hear an earnest admitting of fault occasionally, otherwise I find it impossible to take the rest seriously.

[flipgsp]

Yes Sam its always OTHER people who are in an echo chamber. Not you 😂😂 Not the guy that just basically said that as long as his echo cha.. I mean "channels " which are the ones he cares about, agree with him, then he can't possibly be wrong about anything. 😂 Also fantastic job steel manning Jordan and Rogan at the end 😂 I totally didn't yell straw man like 3 times in 30 seconds.