Jay Dyer on Sola Fide

Top 10 Reasons I'm Not Protestant - Jay Dyer

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Jay killing it as usual. Folks should look into the Fugger banking family & how they funded people like Martin Luther etc. That banking family was key to the movement.

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Protestants quote mining their favorite picked apart out of context verses
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James 2

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The word "church" means "assembly, " so the church is necessarily made of "living stones" (1 Peter 2:5). Only when we are put together in our proper arrangement do we make the house.

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St. Clement of Rome (AD 35-99)

"All these, therefore, were highly honored, and made great, not for their own sake, or for their own works, or for the righteousness which they wrought, but through the operation of His will. And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen"

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Having been taught through scripture alone I'm only casually aware of any of this. But knowing that when men or groups of men get together to create a Doctrine, they have to agree on something no matter how erroneous it turns out to be.
Luke 18:16-17 KJV

But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.

How difficult can that be....
Especially considering that throughout the Old Testament the Lord says that he will write his law on our hearts?

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Jay Dyer on Sola Fide (Response No. 2, Part IV)

One 3rd century example from the lives and writings of first millenium Church Fathers that are (A) venerated by the Orthodox Church and (B) designated as such by Constantine N. Tsirpanlis:

ST. CYPRIAN, BISHOP OF CARTHAGE (A.D. c. 210 – 14 September 258)
From Orthodox Wiki: "Hieromartyr Cyprian of Carthage was the leading bishop of the Church of Africa during the mid-third century. He was martyred during the persecution of emperor Valerian. His feast day is August 31."
Quoting from St. Cyprian's work On The Unity Of The Church, c. 251 is the following from its Chapter Four, "If anyone considers and examines these things, there is no need of a lengthy discussion and arguments. Proof for faith is easy in a brief statement of the truth. The Lord speaks to Peter: 'I say to thee, ' He says, 'thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound also in heaven, and whatever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed also in heaven.' Upon him, being one, He builds His Church, and although after His resurrection He bestows equal power upon all the Apostles, and says: 'As the Father has sent me, I also send you. Receive ye the Holy Spirit: if you forgive the sins of anyone, they will be forgiven him; if you retain the sins of anyone, they will be retained, ' yet that He might display unity, He established by His authority the origin of the same unity as beginning from one. Surely the rest of the Apostles also were that which Peter was, endowed with an equal partnership of office and of power, but the beginning proceeds from unity, that the Church of Christ may be shown to be one."
[Translated by Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson. The Ante-Nicene Fathers. Translations of the Writings of the Fathers down to A.D. 325. Vol. 5. American reprint of the Edinburgh edition revised by A. Cleveland Coxe. Grand Rapids, Michigan : Eerdmans, 1956-1962]

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I have wondered this myself as a Protestant. We are very anti-works righteousness oriented, but whether you are a Calvinist or not, accepting or not accepting Jesus’ sacrifice for your sins is a work, is it not?

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Jay Dyer on Sola Fide (Response No. 2, Part II)

One 1st century A.D. example from the lives and writings of first millenium Church Fathers that are (A) venerated by the Orthodox Church and (B) designated as such by Constantine N. Tsirpanlis:

ST. CLEMENT, THIRD BISHOP OF ROME (A.D. 92 – 101?)

From Orthodox Wiki: "Our father among the saints Clement of Rome (also called Clemens Romanus to distinguish him from Clement of Alexandria) was the third in succession after the Apostle Peter as bishop of Rome. Clement is known mainly for the letter he wrote to the Corinthians in about AD 96. He is counted among the apostolic fathers. His feast day is November 23 in the west, but in the east he is remembered on November 25."

In A.D. 96, Clement of Rome intervened in a Corinth church struggle by penning a Letter To The Corinthians and sending it there with his legates to resolve the dispute. It contains the following passage:
“Accept our advice and you will never regret it. For as God lives, and as the Lord Jesus Christ lives and the Holy Spirit (on whom the elect believe and hope), the man who with humility and eager considerateness and with no regrets does what God has decreed and ordered will be enlisted and enrolled in the ranks of those who are save through Jesus Christ. Through Him be the glory to God forever and ever. Amen. If, on the other hand, there be some who fail to obey what God has told them through us, they must realize that they will enmesh themselves in sin and in no insignificant danger. We, for our part, will not be responsible for such a sin.”
[Richardson, Cyril C., Th. D., D.D., editor, et al, Early Christian Fathers (Simon & Schuster: New York, 1996), p. 70]

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Jay Dyer on Sola Fide (Response No. 2, Part VIII)

One 7th century example from the lives and writings of first millenium Church Fathers that are (A) venerated by the Orthodox Church and (B) designated as such by Constantine N. Tsirpanlis:

ST. MAXIMUS THE CONFESSOR
From Orthodox Wikipedia: "Our venerable and God-bearing Father Maximus the Confessor (ca. 580-662) was an Orthodox Christian monk and ascetical writer known especially for his courageous fight against the heresy of Monothelitism. His feast days in the Church are celebrated on January 21 and, for the translation of his relics, on August 13."

(1) During his opposition to Pyrrhus, Patriarch of Constantinople, who succumbed to the pressure of the Byzantine emperor and assented to the Monothelite heresy which posited that there was only a Divine Will and not a human will in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, St Maximus declared: “Let him [Pyrrhus] hasten before all to satisfy the Roman See. That done, all will with one accord, everywhere hold him pious and orthodox. Indeed, he is talking in vain when he …does not satisfy and beg forgiveness of the Blessed Pope [Eugenius] of the most holy Roman church, that is, of the Apostolic See. This See, from the very Incarnate Word of God, and also from all holy Councils according to the sacred canons and definitions, has received universal and supreme domination, authority, and power of binding and loosing over the holy churches of God all over the world. For when this binds and looses, so also does the Word in Heaven, who rules the heavenly virtues.”
[James Likoudis’ Ending the Byzantine Greek Schism (St. Martin de Porres Dominican Community: New Hope, KY, 1992), p. 184]
(2) For his opposition to the Byzantine emperor and the heretical patriarch, and for his support of the bishop of Rome, St. Maximus the Confessor: (A) was given a trial of inquiry and found guilty in Constantinople in 655 and afterwards sentenced to exile in Bizya of Thrace; (B) twice was subject to intimidation in an attempt to force his recantation in 656 and 662; and (C) for failing to recant the second time, had his tongue cut out, his right hand chopped off, and was relocated to Lazika in the Caucausus Mountains, where he later died as a result of his injuries.
[Rahner, Hugo, S.J., Church and State in Early Christianity (Ignatius Press, San Francisco, 1992), pps. 236-237.]

[Acularis]

Also how do you rectify John 6:28-6:29?

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Jay Dyer on Sola Fide (Response No. 2, Part IX)

One 8th century example from the lives and writings of first millenium Church Fathers that are (A) venerated by the Orthodox Church and (B) designated as such by Constantine N. Tsirpanlis:

ST. THEODORE THE STUDITE
From Orthodox Wikipedia: "Our Venerable and God-bearing Father Theodore the Studite (759-826) was a hymnographer and theologian as well as the abbot of the Monastery of St. John the Baptist in Studios, outside of Constantinople...Following the restoration of holy icons, Theodore became one of the great heroes of the iconodule opposition. His great theological contribution, On the Holy Icons, was written in defense of icons during the Second [[Iconoclasm}iconoclastic]] Period (814-842). He is also known for his writings and influence on monastic reform. His feast day is on November 11, and the transfer of his relics from Cherson to Constantinople in 845 on January 26."

During the Iconoclast heresy, which denied the rightful veneration of sacred images, the monk St. Theodore of Studium penned impassioned letters to both Pope Leo III and the Emperor Michael II.

To Pope Leo III, St. Theodore wrote:
“…it is to Peter, that is to say, his successor, that one ought to submit every innovation which is made in the Catholic Church by those who would turn aside from the truth. That is what we humble and lowly monks have learnt from the ancient Fathers…I borrow now the cry of the Coryphaeus [Chief] of the Apostles, calling Christ to his succor when the waves of the sea were risen up, and I say to your Blessedness who art the Representative of Christ, ‘O First Shepherd of the Church which is under heaven’, save us now, we perish. Imitate the Christ, your Master, stretch out your hand to your Church as He stretched out His hand to Peter.”
[Likoudis, James, The Divine Primacy of the Bishop of Rome and Modern Eastern Orthodoxy: Letters to a Greek Orthodox on the Unity of the Church (St. Martin de Porres Dominican Community: New Hope, KY, 2002), pps. 115-116]

To Emperor Michael II, St. Theodore wrote:
“Although lately our church [of Constantinople] is broken off from the four patriarchs and has acted lawlessly to no purpose, now is the acceptable time. O Lord beloved of God, now is the day of salvation, that we may be reconciled with Christ through the mediation and good-will of your peacefully ruling Majesty: that we may be united with Rome the head of the churches of God, and through Rome with the other three patriarchs…If your divine Magnificence doubts or disbelieves that a particular point can be settled devoutly by the patriarch, then your great and God-confirmed hand, zealous for divine things and the common good, should command that a declaration be given by the Older Rome, according to the ancient tradition handed down by our Fathers, from the beginning. The first incumbent of the See was Peter, to whom the Lord said, ‘Thou art Peter, and upon this Rock I will build My Church, and the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.’”
[Likoudis, James, The Divine Primacy of the Bishop of Rome and Modern Eastern Orthodoxy: Letters to a Greek Orthodox on the Unity of the Church (St. Martin de Porres Dominican Community: New Hope, KY, 2002), pps. 116-117]

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Jay Dyer on Sola Fide (Response No. 2, Part X)

One 9th century example from the lives and writings of first millenium Church Fathers that are (A) venerated by the Orthodox Church and (B) designated as such by Constantine N. Tsirpanlis:

PHOTIUS THE GREAT
Orthodox Wikipedia: " Our father among the saints Photius the Great (also Photios; Greek Φώτιoς), Patriarch of Constantinople, is considered one of the greatest patriarchs of Constantinople. His feast day is celebrated on February 6."
"St. Photius was condemned as patriarch by the Robber Council of 869-870, but the Eighth Ecumenical Council (879-880) affirmed his restoration to his see. Although he was accused of causing the "Photian" Schism, he was recognized as a major peacemaker of that time. He reconciled with Patriarch Ignatius, who named him as his successor (for a second time) upon Ignatius' death in 877."

In the General Introduction of his book, Constantine Tsirpanlis argues that, in determining who shall receive Fatherly designation, “chronological limits are quite arbitrary and meaningless, since they exclude important Fathers of the Church, Eastern and Western…”
[Tsirpanlis, Constantine N., Introduction to Eastern Patristic Thought and Orthodox Theology, Theology and Life Series, 30 (The Liturgical Press: Collegeville, MN, 1991), p. 22]

The cut-off point would appear to be sometime just before the ninth century and this writer suggests it for the following reason: It was during the ninth century that Photius, Patriarch of Constantinople, objected to the ‘Filioque’ clause that had been added to the Nicean-Constantinopolitan Creed by the Latin Church, and which set into motion a dispute over Trinitarian doctrine that would persist until the present day in the break of communion between the Eastern and Western Churches. However, as research by the twentieth century Czech scholar Fr. Francis Dvornik revealed, Photius never at any time rejected the pope’s primacy in having universal jurisdiction over the entire Church, and he died in full communion with the See of Rome.

In a letter to the Pope John VIII, Photius wrote: “We may well ask you who is the Master who has taught you to act in this fashion? – Surely, above all, it is Peter, the leader of the Apostles whom the Lord has placed at the head of all the churches, when He said to him: ‘Feed my sheep’ [John 21:17]. Nor is it only Peter, but also the holy Synods and constitutions. And besides, it was the holy and orthodox decrees established by the Fathers, as is clear from your divine and holy letters.”
[Dvornik, Francis, Byzantium and the Roman Primacy. (Fordham University Press: New York, 1966), p. 113]

Conclusion:
Returning to Jay Dyer's original question ["So next, let's move to the third point which is, again as I said, if the Church is a single entity then it should match up to church of the first millenium. And what Church matches up to the church of the first millenium after the second millenium? Right, that's the key question here."], in light of the lives and writings of the aforementioned first millenium Church Fathers that are (A) venerated by the Orthodox Church and (B) designated as such by Constantine N. Tsirpanlis, wouldn't the church of the second millenium be in communion with the bishop of Rome?

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If salvation were dependent on human effort or works, it would diminish the significance of what Christ accomplished. His death and resurrection are the foundation of our salvation, grace through faith, not works.

Salvation is a gift from God, freely given through the finished work of Jesus Christ, and cannot be earned through human effort or works.

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Jay Dyer on Sola Fide (Response No. 2, Part VI)

Three 5th century examples from the lives and writings of first millenium Church Fathers that are (A) venerated by the Orthodox Church and (B) designated as such by Constantine N. Tsirpanlis:

A. ST. AUGUSTINE, BISHOP OF HIPPO
From Orthodox Wikipedia: "Augustine of Hippo (354–430) is one of the great Church Fathers of the fourth century. He was the eldest son of Saint Monica."

(1) He wrote the following pertaining to the episcopacy and apostolic succession: “For, if the order of succession of bishops is to be considered, how much more surely, truly and safely do we number them from Peter. To whom, as representing the whole church, the Lord said: ‘Upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it’ (Mt. 16:18). For, to Peter succeeded Linus, to Linus clement, to Clement Anacletus, to Anacletus Evaristus, to Evaristus Sixtus, to Sixtus Telesphorus, to Telesphorus Hygines, to Hyginus Anicetus, to Anicetus Pius, to Pius Soter, to Soter Alexander, to Alexander Victor, to Victor Zephyrinus, to Zephyrinus Calistus. To Calistus Urban, to Urban Pontian, to Pontian Antherus, to Antherus Fabian, to Fabian Cornelius, to Cornelius Lucius, to Lucius Stephen, to Stephen Sixtus, to Sixtus Dionysius, to Dionysius Felix, to Felix Euthychian, to Euthychian Gaius, to Gaius Marcellus, to Marcellus Eusebius, to Eusebius Melchiades, to Melchiades Sylvester, to Sylvester Marcus, to Marcus Julius, to Julius Liberius, to Liberius Damasus, to Damasus Siricius, to Siricius Anastasius.” [Willis, John R., S.J., editor, The Teachings of the Church Fathers (Ignatius Press: San Francisco, 2002), pps. 73-74.]

(2) After the bishop of Rome had approved the decisions of African ecclesial councils to excommunicate the heretics Pelagius and Celesius, he wrote in Sermon 131: “Roma locuta est; causa finite est (Rome has spoken, the case is concluded).” [Likoudis, James, The Divine Primacy of the Bishop of Rome and Modern Eastern Orthodoxy: Letters to a Greek Orthodox on the Unity of the Church (St. Martin de Porres Dominican Community: New Hope, KY, 2002), p. 85]

B. ST. CYRIL, PATRIARCH OF ALEXANDRIA (c. 376-444)
From Orthodox Wikipedia: "Our father among the saints Cyril of Alexandria was the Pope of Alexandria at the time Alexandria was at its height in influence and power within the Roman Empire. Cyril wrote extensively and was a leading protagonist in the Christological controversies of the 4th and 5th centuries. He was a central figure in the Council of Ephesus in 431 which led to the deposition of Nestorius as Archbishop of Constantinople. Cyril is among the patristic fathers, and his reputation within the Orthodox Christian world has led to his acquiring the title "Seal of all the Fathers." His feast day is celebrated on June 9 and, with St. Athanasius of Alexandria, on January 18."

(1) He is renowned in history as the Church Father who presided over the Council of Ephesus in A.D. 431 that proclaimed the Virgin Mary as Theotokos (God-bearer). Prior to the council he wrote the following in a letter to Pope Celestine concerning his dispute with the Antiochene bishops, as well with the formulation of the Mariological doctrine: “Since God requires vigilance of us in these matters, and a long established custom of the Churches directs that questions such as these be communicated to your Holiness, I write to you, urged thereto by a clear necessity.”
[Rengers, Fr. Christopher, O.F.M. Cap., The 33 Doctors of the Church (Tan Books and Publishers, Inc.: Rockford, IL, 2000), p. 144]


(2) St. Cyril, along with the several hundred bishops in attendance, signed the Ephesus Council documents that included a letter read by the papal legate Philip which stated, “No one doubts, in fact, it is obvious to all ages that the holy and most Blessed Peter, head and Prince of the Apostles, the pillar of faith, and the foundation of the Catholic Church, received the keys of the kingdom from our Lord Jesus Christ, the savior and the redeemer of the human race. Nor does anyone doubt that the power of forgiving and retaining sins was also given to this same Peter who, in his successors, lives and exercises judgment even to this time and forever.”
[Clarkson, John F., S.J. translator, et al, The Church Teaches (Tan Books and Publishers, Inc.: Rockford, IL, 1973), p. 69]

C. POPE ST. LEO THE GREAT, BISHOP OF ROME (c. A.D. 400 – 461)
From Orthodox Wikipedia:
"Our father among the saints, Pope Leo I, or Saint Leo the Great, was an aristocrat who was Pope of Rome from 440 to 461. He is the first widely known pope, and even sometimes assigned the title "first pope." He stopped the invasion of Italy by Attila the Hun in 452 by his moral persuasion, and was a theologian. His feast day is commemorated in the East on February 18, but by Western Orthodox on November 10."
"He was in particular one of the basic defenders of Orthodoxy against the heresies of Eutyches and Dioscorus of Alexandria, who taught that there was only one nature in the Lord Jesus Christ. He was also a defender against the heresy of Nestorius."
"He actively promoted the convening of the Fourth Ecumenical Council, at Chalcedon in 451, to condemn the heresy of the Monophysites."
"At the Council of Chalcedon, at which 630 bishops were present, a letter of Leo to the deceased St. Flavian, Patriarch of Constantinople (447-449), was read. Flavian had suffered for Orthodoxy under the Robber Council of Ephesus in the year 449. In the letter of Leo, the Orthodox teaching about the two natures of Christ, divine and human, was set forth. All the bishops present at the Council were in agreement with this teaching, and so the heretics Eutyches and Dioscorus were excommunicated from the Church."

Troparion (Tone 8)

"O Champion of Orthodoxy, and teacher of holiness,
The enlightenment of the universe and the inspired glory of true believers.
O most wise Father Leo, your teachings are as music of the Holy Spirit for us!
Pray that Christ our God may save our souls!"

Kontakion (Tone 3)

"O glorious Leo, when you rose to the Bishop's throne,
You shut the lions' mouths with the true doctrine of the Holy Trinity:
You enlightened your flock with the knowledge of God.
Therefore you are glorified, O seer of things divine!"

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Jay Dyer on Sola Fide (Response No. 2, Part I)
8:17-31: "So next, let's move to the third point which is, again as I said, if the church is a single entity then it should match up to church of the first millenium. And what church matches up to the church of the first millenium after the second millenium? Right, that's the key question here."
Response:
In an attempt to demonstrate what church, how about taking chronological examples from the lives and writings of Church Fathers from the first millenium (A) who are saints venerated by the Orthodox Church and (B) taking them from Constantine N. Tsirpanlis’ book Introduction to Eastern Patristic Thought and Orthodox Theology? According to Dr. Tsirpanlis, the Church Fathers he acknowledges possess four distinguishing characteristics: “(1) Orthodoxy of doctrine, (2) holiness of life, (3) ecclesiastical approval, and (4) antiquity." [Tsirpanlis, Constantine N., Introduction to Eastern Patristic Thought and Orthodox Theology, Theology and Life Series, 30 (The Liturgical Press: Collegeville, MN, 1991), p. 21]

But before relying on such an authority, perhaps it would be prudent to list Dr. Tsirpanlis' 'bona fides' in order to demonstrate his fidelity to Orthodoxy:
Background - Tsirpanlis, Constantine N. was born on March 18, 1935 in Kos, Greece. Came to the United States, 1957.

Education - Bachelor, Master of Sacred Theology, licensed in theology magna cum laude, Theological Seminary, Istanbul, Turkey, 1957. Master of Theology, Harvard University, 1962. Doctor of Theology, Union Theological Seminary, 1963. Master of Arts, Columbia University, 1966. Doctor of Philosophy, Columbia University, 1970. Doctor of Philosophy, Fordham University, 1973. Doctor of Letters (honorary), World Academy Arts and Culture, 1993.

Career - Instructor, organizer Greek-American communities, 1958-1963. Professor world history New York Institute of Technology New York City and Delaware County College, Media, Pennsylvania, 1967-1975. Theology, sociology, history, ecumenism, Greek studies Union Theological Seminary, Barrytown, New York, scriptures, patristics, Greek language, theology Somerset, New Jersey, since 1999. Chairman, professor classics Collegiate School, New York City, 1967—1969. Professor modern Greek language and literature New School Social Research, New York City, 1968—1970. Professor classical mythology Hunter College City University of New York, 1968—1970, New York University, 1964—1974.
[From the prabook website,

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Jay Dyer on Sola Fide (Response No. 2, Part VII)

One 6th century example from the lives and writings of first millenium Church Fathers that are (A) venerated by the Orthodox Church and (B) designated as such by Constantine N. Tsirpanlis:

POPE ST. GREGORY I, BISHOP OF ROME
From Orthodox Wikipedia: "Our father among the saints Gregory I, also known as Gregory the Great, was the Pope of Rome from September 3, 590, until his death on March 12, 604. He is noted for his writings. Also, the Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts has been attributed to him."
Troparion (Tone 4)
"Receiving divine grace from God on high, O glorious Gregory,
And strengthened with its power,
You willed to walk in the path of the Gospel, O most blessed one.
Therefore you have received from Christ the reward of your labors!
Entreat him that he may save our souls!"
Kontakion (Tone 3)
"You showed yourself to be an imitator of Christ, the chief Shepherd,
O Father Gregory,
Guiding the orders of monks to the fold of heaven.
From there you taught the flock of Christ His commandments!
Now you rejoice and dance with them in the mansions of heaven!"

From the Orthodox Church in America website: "Saint Gregory compiled the Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts in the Latin language, which before him was known only in the verbal tradition. Affirmed by the Sixth Ecumenical Council, this liturgical service was accepted by all the Orthodox Church."
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Jay Dyer on Sola Fide (Response No. 1)
0:14-21: "The doctrine of sola fide is based on a presupposition on how to interpret the letters of Paul, particularly the Book of Romans ..."
Response:
1. The origin of the Protestant doctrine Justification By Faith Alone (Sola Fide) began with Martin Luther when, on his own authority, in his German translation of the New Testament he added the word 'ALONE' (Allein) to Romans 3:28 to read, "For we hold that a man is justified by faith 'ALONE' (Allein)."
2. Luther wrote the following regarding his addition of the word 'ALONE' (Allein) to Romans 3:28: "If your papist worries you about the word 'alone', just tell him plainly that Dr. Martin Luther will have it so, and says: 'Papist and donkey are one and the same thing; sic volo, sic jubeo, stat pro ratione voluntas.' ["I wish it, I command it. Let my will take the place of a reason." (Luther quoting the Latin from 1st-2nd AD author Juvenal's satirical poems Satyrai)] For we must not be the pupils or disciples of the papists, but on the contrary their masters and judges. We ought to swagger and hammer on their donkey-heads, and, as Paul challenged the sanctimonious fools of his day, so I will also challenge these donkeys of mine." [G.W. Bromiley, Thomas Cranmer Theologian (London, 1956), p.36.]
3. In addition to the above concerning Romans 3:28, Luther also wrote: "I am sorry now that I did not add the word 'all' so that it would read 'without all works of all laws', and thus ring out loudly and completely. However, it shall stand as it is in my New Testament, and though all the Papist-donkeys go mad about it, they shall not move me from this." [A. Hilliard Atteridge, Martin Luther (London, 1940), pp.19-20.]
4. Although subsequent German translations removed the word 'ALONE' (Allein) from Romans 3:28 to accurately transmit in German what St. Paul originally wrote in Greek, Luther steadfastly held on to the doctrine of Sola Fide derived from his additional word. Luther's doctrine subsequently was adopted by all of the 16th century Protestant Reformers, including those who initiated movements that continue on to the present day: (A) John Calvin [Reformed] in his Institutes of the Christian Religion, (B) Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury Thomas Cranmer [Church of England] in No. 8 of 39 Articles of Religion contained in his Book of Common Prayer, and (C) Calvin's student Church of Scotland founder John Knox [Presbyterianism] in his book On Justification By Faith Alone.
5. John Calvin even admitted in his Institutes that the word 'alone' never follows the word 'faith' in the Bible but still went ahead and followed Luther in the new Protestant doctrine:
"The reader now perceives with what fairness the Sophists of the present day cavil at our doctrine, when we say that a man is justified by faith alone (Rom. 4:2). They dare not deny that he is justified by faith, seeing Scripture so often declares it; but as the word alone is nowhere expressly used they will not tolerate its being added."
[John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book III, Chapter 11, No. 19; Beveridge translation, p. 459; nts library website, Institutes pdf 467 of 944]
6. Therefore, the conjoined doctrine of a strict penal substitution as a fictional legal transaction between Christ's righteousness and sinful humans cannot even be honestly considered when the root from which it springs, i.e., Sola Fide, is based upon (A) a human addition and therefore (B) a falsification of the Bible

[Acularis]

Why did Christ have to die if penal atonement is not correct though?

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What is this dude in the comments yapping about

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Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”
John 6:28‭-‬29 ESV