Explaining the Hersey of the Catholic Mass 1 - John MacArthur

[joker]

i’m gonna stick with Christ’s church over this nonsense

[cjr]

And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”

[me-ycgr]

You only need to know 2 things.
Remembrance of the passover was CHANGED to Easter, celebrating the fertility goddess ISHTAR with fertility symbols of rabbits and eggs, and the elimination of the second commandment against idols, then splitting the tenth commandment into two separate laws.
Let's see, the SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST seeks to change times and laws.
All you need to know.

[barbwellman]

John 6:35
I AM the Bread of Life.Whoever comes to Me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in Me will never be thirsty.

Our Father, Who art in Heaven...give us today our daily Bread....

Christ's once for all (perpetual) Sacrifice is now an unbloody sacrifice.

His Body and Blood are now made available to the faithful through the appearance of wine and unleavened bread.

[MeowMeow-jtmo]

​ @jaydee5863 *You cannot answer again ... If Roman religion is really the Church of the Bible or the "one true church". Then why are 95% of RC doctrines and RC clergies not in the Bible? Mind boggling ... Lol*
*nt Church of the Bible did not have Roman pontiff neither Roman priests, neither did Apostles pray to dead saints or Mary, neither did Apostles and Jesus make statues for Mary and saint .. Neither bow down to statues .. Neither Roman unholy water, neither sinless Mary, neither veneration of skulls bones tongues ... So where are all these man made doctrines of Rome in the Bible? Neither all the below man made doctrines! Wonder where they come from?*

*There was never a Catholic Church in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Catholic Church in the Bible.*
*There was never a Catholic in the Bible.*
*There was never a Roman Catholic in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church pope in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church priest in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church cardinal in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church sinless Mary in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church unholy water in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church penance in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church purgatory in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church canonised saint in the Bible.*
*There was never an Nt believer who made or bow down to statues in the Bible.*
*There was never an Nt believer who prays or received prayers from passed saints or Mary in the Bible.*
*There was never an ecumenical council with bishops of all churches that decided the canon in history*

*If you can find one example in the New Testament I will give you a lollipop.*


*nt church of the Apostles did not have such practices. Answer me: did apostles make and bow down to statues? Did Apostles ask passed on saints to pray for them? Or sprinkle "holy" water on believers? Or wore fishhead hat and costumes? Or cite hocus pocus when they serve the communion? They merely broke bread and passed around the table. Did they demand believers to kneel in front of them to serve them communion? Or did Peter ask believers to kiss his hands and feet? Or did Apostles venerate statues, bones or relics?*

*You do see clearly it all came from practices of believers after the Apostles - which Rcs claimed its from early writings. They had already deviated from the Apostles and Jesus. What Rcc called doctrines were merely partly traditions of errant believers + partly its own self traditions. Totally not from Jesus and Apostles at all.*

[jediv]

​ @James-ll3jb *It is now for RCs to defend Sola Papa and Sola Roman religion. Where in the Scriptures say "listen to Roman popes and Roman religion"? And "Roman religion is the only infallible interpreter of Scriptures"? That's the BIG QUESTION isnt it? RCs could never prove this self claim.*

[EllenHildenbrand]

How dare you demonize every good person who is, like you, trying to please God and follow in the footsteps of Jesus. "Judge not!" He said. You would do well to heed the two greatest commandments - Love God and also love your neighbor as yourself! Your "sermon" is full of hatred and vitriol. It is unworthy of ANY kind of Christian!

[browncony]

@MW-eg4gu *Wrong again. Acts 15 says even NT Church took doctrines from "what God says and said" only. They did not take from any other source.*





you said
divorced Church authority

[jediv]

​ @andrewpatton5114 *You failed to answer once again. Where in the Bible teaches all these ns of Roman religion? WHere?*
- submit to Roman pope to be saved
- devote to Roman Mary to be saved
- be in Roman Church to be saved
- partake Roman sacraments to be saved
- baptise in Roman baptism to be saved
- do lots of works to be saved

[ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν]

Justin Martyr vs John MacArthur.
The Apostle John’s students, Ignatius and Πολύκαρπος
Early Christianity would not even recognize MacArthur’s version of Christianity. Πάντοτε Χαίρετε.

[tucker]

I can get behind criticism of the Roman Catholic Church, but I can’t accept that real Christian worship is go to contemporary rock concert and receive a 45 minute self-help lecture.
The early church, virtually all church fathers, and the most learned theologians for hundreds of years, were all in agreement with so many areas which modern day protestants completely disregard.
These pastors all in the risk of becoming deluded and deciding their own interpretations of scripture is ultimately true, that history and philosophy doesn’t matter at all.

[MeowMeow-jtmo]

@MW-eg4gu *Of course all true believers are against unbiblical Roman pagan Mass (sacrificing Jesus on a Roman altar back to God); since Bible does not teach such ns.*



you said
Which one of you Protestant denominations is against the Catholic Mass? All of you of course.

[faithalone]

​ @IamTheRealZODIAC *You failed to answer once again ... If Roman religion is really the Church of the Bible or the "one true church". Then why are 95% of RC doctrines and 95% of RC clergies not in the Bible? Mind boggling ... Lol*
*nt Church of the Bible did not have Roman pontiff neither Roman priests, neither did Apostles pray to dead saints or Mary, neither did Apostles and Jesus make statues for Mary and saint .. Neither bow down to statues .. Neither Roman unholy water, neither sinless Mary, neither veneration of skulls bones tongues ... So where are all these man made doctrines of Rome in the Bible? Neither all the below man made doctrines! Wonder where they come from?*

*There was never a Catholic Church in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Catholic Church in the Bible.*
*There was never a Catholic in the Bible.*
*There was never a Roman Catholic in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church pope in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church priest in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church cardinal in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church sinless Mary in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church unholy water in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church penance in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church purgatory in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church canonised saint in the Bible.*
*There was never an Nt believer who made or bow down to statues in the Bible.*
*There was never an Nt believer who prays or received prayers from passed saints or Mary in the Bible.*
*There was never an ecumenical council with bishops of all churches that decided the canon in history*

*If you can find one example in the New Testament I will give you a lollipop.*


*nt church of the Apostles did not have such practices. Answer me: did apostles make and bow down to statues? Did Apostles ask passed on saints to pray for them? Or sprinkle "holy" water on believers? Or wore fishhead hat and costumes? Or cite hocus pocus when they serve the communion? They merely broke bread and passed around the table. Did they demand believers to kneel in front of them to serve them communion? Or did Peter ask believers to kiss his hands and feet? Or did Apostles venerate statues, bones or relics?*

*You do see clearly it all came from practices of believers after the Apostles - which Rcs claimed its from early writings. They had already deviated from the Apostles and Jesus. What Rcc called doctrines were merely partly traditions of errant believers + partly its own self traditions. Totally not from Jesus and Apostles at all.*

[jediv]

​ @theHermitofEngedi *You are making more false claims. 1st century NT Church of the Bible practised nothing like Roman Catholicism.*

*nt Church of the Bible did not have Roman pontiff neither Roman priests, neither did Apostles pray to dead saints or Mary, neither did Apostles and Jesus make statues for Mary and saint .. Neither bow down to statues .. Neither Roman unholy water, neither sinless Mary, neither veneration of skulls bones tongues ... So where are all these man made doctrines of Rome in the Bible? Neither all the below man made doctrines! Wonder where they come from?*
*There was never a Catholic Church in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Catholic Church in the Bible.*
*There was never a Catholic in the Bible.*
*There was never a Roman Catholic in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church pope in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church priest in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church cardinal in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church sinless Mary in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church unholy water in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church penance in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church purgatory in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church canonised saint in the Bible.*
*There was never an Nt believer who made or bow down to statues in the Bible.* *There was never an Nt believer who prays or received prayers from passed saints or Mary in the Bible.*
*There was never an ecumenical council with bishops of all churches that decided the canon in history*
*If you can find one example in the New Testament I will give you a lollipop.*
*nt church of the Apostles did not have such practices. Answer me: did apostles make and bow down to statues? Did Apostles ask passed on saints to pray for them? Or sprinkle "holy" water on believers? Or wore fishhead hat and costumes? Or cite hocus pocus when they serve the communion? They merely broke bread and passed around the table. Did they demand believers to kneel in front of them to serve them communion? Or did Peter ask believers to kiss his hands and feet? Or did Apostles venerate statues, bones or relics?*
*You do see clearly it all came from practices of believers after the Apostles - which Rcs claimed its from early writings. They had already deviated from the Apostles and Jesus. What Rcc called doctrines were merely partly traditions of errant believers + partly its own self traditions. Totally not from Jesus and Apostles at all.*


you said
The church in Jerusalem still exists. And was Catholic until the Schism. The church in Jerusalem still practices the true Faith. Why do all of the first century, apostolic churches practice the same Faith, and none them look like the Protestant one?

[LibertarianPatriot]

Maybe y’all should focus on going to the end of the earth focusing on the unsaved instead of attacking Christians, the Church founded by Christ Himself. 1500 years of doing the same thing that Jesus instructed and the Martin Luther comes along and you think his words are better then Our Lords. Shame on you.

[MeowMeow-jtmo]

​ @jaydee5863 *Mixing truth and fairy tales does not help you. Bible does not speak of the office of bishop of bishops - pope. So where did RCs get all your ns? ANd Bible does not say Roman religion inherited the authority of Peter and APostles. So where did RCs get all your self claims?*



you said
The apostles eventually became bishops, and the bishops made priests and deacons to help them tend to the flock. Moreover, our Lord told Peter he was the rock on whom Our Lord would build the church. An organization without a leader quickly falls into disunity. Jesus is the head of the church, and the pope is the one who leads the church on earth for Our Lord, and we know that if God did not will it, he would have prevented there from being a Pope.

[MeowMeow-jtmo]

​ @jaydee5863 *You cannot answer ... You cited Bible, but Bible does not speak of any Roman Mass. So you are just using the terms in the Bible, but the doctrines are not there.*

*There is no word called Roman Mass or Roman Pagan Eucharist. So where did RCs get all your ns?*

[jediv]

​ @chrismason8476 *You kept dodging ... You claimed Jesus and APostles did not take doctrines from God's Word only. So please list out which other source they took doctrines from. Cite some examples.*
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*You can't.*

[MeowMeow-jtmo]

​ @jaydee5863 *You kept dodging ... You cannot answer .... If Roman Catholicism is truth or Church of the Bible, why was there not a single New Covenant believer saved in a Roman Catholic way in the whole Bible? Why is that so? Please explain coherently intelligently.*
- submit to Roman pope to be saved
- devote to Roman Mary to be saved
- be in Roman Church to be saved
- partake Roman sacraments to be saved
- baptise in Roman baptism to be saved

[browncony]

@hamidrabiipour9707 *Christianity has thousands of theologians, historians, professors, teachers, bishops & world leaders too. Why don't you believe then? Double standard?*

you said
It's very simple, on one side you have the Roman Catholic Church with 1.3 billion followers including thousands of theologians, historians, professors, teachers, bishops & world leaders and on the other side you have 30K other variations of Christianity. Of course not all of them are misguiding but obviously it's best to stay away from Calvinism.