So... Who Was Actually Faster? - MISTERY SOLVED! 🧐 #rallying #rally #wrc

So... Who Was Actually Faster? - MISTERY SOLVED! 🧐 #rallying #rally #wrc

[RallyNT]

Since, there was a lot of questions on my previous video regarding who was faster, this video shows the answer.

[Coltan]

This isn't just about cornering speed. The exit speed of the red car will be faster than the black which means he'll massively pick up time down the straight.

[charpocus]

Drifting has never been fast but it is fun tough

[Jeremie]

This is known that drifting is spectacular but always slower !

[LM-syjc]

Aaand....the Citroen is a wrc2 while Toyota is a wrc1.
On the other hand ogier lost the car in this situation due to a unbalanced and longer landing so it's pretty impressive how he managed to force the behaviour of the car losing just a second

[MRworldEtIkA]

I’m no expert, no rally champ, no pro driver—but I do know how tires work. Basically, tires grip by biting into the road, even if it’s rough. On paved roads, they grab onto tiny surface imperfections, and on loose terrain, off-road tires with big tread blocks dig into the dirt to push the car forward. But that grip isn’t unlimited—it’s shared between three jobs: accelerating, braking, and steering. If you slam the brakes, you might use 100% (or more) of the tire’s grip, and that’s when you lock up. Mix in too much braking and turning—like 60% brake + 50% steer—and you overload the grip budget, which can lead to understeer. Same thing goes for acceleration and oversteer.

Now, onto the cars. The black one took the corner in a full drift. Drifting, by design, lets the car rotate so you don’t need much steering input when exiting the turn. The car’s already pointed where you want to go. But this black car was countersteering the whole way through—even at the exit. That means the front tires were fighting to pull the car one way, while the rear tires pushed in another. Both ends were trying to accelerate in opposite directions, so neither could fully use their grip. It's like a tug-of-war with itself.

Then there’s the white car. From the looks of it, probably also AWD. It didn’t drift, barely steered at all, yet it nailed the same corner. That’s a move known as the “no-steering” technique—used by the likes of Takumi Fujiwara from Initial D and real-life racing legend Ken Miles. The idea is: if you know your car well enough, you can make it rotate and aim perfectly just with throttle control. Missed your angle? No problem—you fine-tune it by giving more or less throttle, not by turning the wheel. That way, all four tires face the same direction, work together, and all their grip is focused on accelerating, not fighting each other.

It’s a beautiful thing, really. When everything works in sync like that, it’s not just driving—it’s art on dirt.

[choirulabidin]

The bottom one win the race. The upper one win the heart of the spectator.

[Ruinsthename]

Well there are more things going on here. I don't know this particular situation and hence i don't know the final results for the two drivers, but firstly, yes. The more grip you maintain throughout a corner, the faster you will get through it, and the more speed you will maintain on the exit. The black car botched the entry and oversteered too much, resulting in having to go through the grass and hence losing more grip, but clearly helt his cool to the extend that he only lost 4/100 second in comparison to the less powerful Citroën. depending on the characteristics of the next corner, carrying less speed and having a better position may also be a factor for the final result. Sometimes slower is faster. :)

[AccidntProne]

Ain’t no way our algorithms are all the same lol

[Meadowszn]

The bottom car had a better landing and a better line for the corner for easy momentum exiting with high speed but props to both drivers

[Dyorbekkk]

Like chat gpt said, drift is not about speed its about beauty

[NebulaTraveler]

Nice comparison, good work, good soundtrack.

And yes, the Toyota uses some degree of propulsion for sideways action while the Citroen uses almost every degree of propulsion to accelerate. Therefore the lower time is used for the same distance and while speed is distance per time. 😊

Sideways looks good but compromises forward motion

[entityeoe]

Gonna make an inference that this is the latter half of an S, I do not know what stage this is on.

Their entryspeed was different, from ehati seen the citroen is a class lower therefore the corner sequence before slowed the scr enough where it seemed like it could accelerate theough the medium right and he wasnt dighting G forces.

The toyota, being a class higher entered the corner hot, meaning to make the corner he needed the angle to adjust his rotation when he presses the accelerator, which means yes, he was slower in the latter half because he was pushing the corner and fighting G forces

[FreshMoe]

Thx a lot for posting that, appreciate it🤟

[albertotarantino-re]

La guida pulita in molti casi è meglio ma le curve in derapata è spettacolare

[Dyme]

There is a reason why all racing competitions strive to get the most amount of downforce whilst trying to maintain a desired top speed. Its to ensure that all tires have traction so that power from the drive train isnt wasted in meanigless rotation.

Bottom car has full traction on all four wheels throughout the turn maybe minor slips here and there but insignificant compared to the top car. This means that bottom car will be able to deliver effective power earlier after the turn whilst top car is still trying to regain traction (you can see this a bit after the turn the top car wiggles a bit to regain control showing that not all tires have traction after the turn.)

[Bodudbkdudhbf]

The way you explained this is SO clear. Thank you

[ninetenduh]

Nice, i remember the discussions on the previous one, cool to upload a comparison.

The Citroen will have a much higher exit speed, saving him a lot more time on the long run.

[DIVAKA]

The pioneer in this technique in rally said that this is not the fastest way to go around a corner, but its the safest.