Home RenoVision DIY Tried to Take Our Reaction Video Down

This is technically a reupload! In this video I'm reaction to Home Renovision DIY, but they had video removed on the grounds of copyright infringement. After proving them wrong, the video was reinstated. Unfortunately, all performance was gone. So we decided to reupload with a little explainer in the beginning to clear things up. Enjoy!

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[jordanreeves]

Admittedly, I’m kinda a Renovision fan boy. Dudes videos have literally saved me thousands of dollars by showing me how to do stuff and giving me the courage to DIY. That said I’m bummed about the copy right claim but glad they didn’t pursue it. If I had to guess, it was probably a knee jerk reaction then they realized it wasn’t a big deal. His whole family is involved in making their YouTube videos and I imagine it’s their main source of income. I’d feel a little protective too. Either way, you handled it well, Joe.

[tspfull]

Jeff made a reference in one of his live videos to people who sit and make reaction videos. Kinda inferred it was a lazy way to create content. He was not a fan. Now i know what he was talking about. He is generally not receptive to criticism but I enjoy his DIY oriented perspective.

[rodneymcvey]

As a fan of both channels, I thought you did a fine job on this video. I consider Jeff more of a “jack of all trades” in construction. Where as, you are a specialist in fencing. I believe he had a knee jerk reaction. Keep the videos coming!!

[ikeo]

He seems like a pretty cool guy, he's just a tad sensitive to comments though I find.. I mean your reaction was pretty mild and overall positive, not sure why they decided to make a takedown notice

[iksnivils]

Joe, you're the Rick Beatto of fence videos! Fight the good fight!

[jadeblack]

I’m a fan of both of your channels. I’ve learned a lot from both of you. I think he’s got a lot to offer in his videos, for a wide range of different jobs. And I really appreciate your fence videos, and your review videos of other fencing methods. It’s nice having a second professional opinion on the way someone else is doing something. I could easily watch one video and think “that’s looks like a great way to do it” and not know if it really is good or not. I thought your review was overall very positive and you’re very honest when your not familiar with something or if you don’t have experience with a particular method, so it’s not like your offering an opinion without a basis of understanding.

I plan on DIY’ing my fence when I can afford to (when the cost of lumber comes back down), and I can’t even tell you how many horizontal fence videos I have watched (it’s A LOT). I’ve seen some that even I as a very novice DIYer could tell just didn’t seem right, and some that looked like sound processes. So it’s nice having some videos to compare processes to figure out what will be best for my situation.

I think you handled it well, and clearly you were within guidelines. Seems odd they would want you to take down a positive review of one of their videos. Either way, keep doing what you’re doing! Happy you’re channel is still here!

[batman-puef]

i dont think renovision watched this whole video. i dont see why they would want you to take it down. you gave all kinds of positive feed back!

[tyjones]

You're 100% correct Joe. It's not as structurally sound at all on a vertical fence. In fact, I used to work for a decking manufacturer that used the Camo system and I can assure you that they wouldn't recommend their product for vertical applications. The forces involved are totally different, as you stated.

[jasonwells]

Never would have even looked at their videos if not for you. Hope they realize your helping their channel not hurting it. Thanks for your hard work.

[somecarpenter]

Hi Joe, as a seasoned carpenter I'm very familiar with the camo system and like it but would also be hesitant to use it on a vertical surface as you mentioned. The screws are a bit short for that application (longer ones are available) and he wasn't using the camo tool when driving in the screws (can't be done without space between boards). The tool is designed to space boards apart consistently, predrill for the screw heads, and countersink the screws only to the proper depth. It appeared to me that he was sinking them in a bit too far which can weaken the connection. Aside from that and Jeff thinking he's a know it all and can do no wrong lol, I generally like his videos and think he does great work and provides invaluable information to his viewers. Also agreed with and enjoyed your feedback. Cheers

[brookesedgedesigns]

I work by myself all the time. A squeeze clamp is way better at holding one side of a board. Clamp it to the post and rest a board on it. I’ve also done a couple decks with the camo system, works great does take more time and screws cost more as well. Be sure to add that to build cost.

[the_judge_]

Been a big fan of HomeRenovision, Jeff and his other channels. Generally he has a lot of experience behind him which drives his advice. Though I'm not affiliated with his channel I'm glad you were gave fair commentary, just as Jeff fairly gives advice too on good tips etc. I find what Jeff focuses on is efficiency and simplicity, and yes that may not always mean neatness but on this specific channel he is aiming at the DIYer like me

[dsaucerey]

I just feel like "reaction videos" are a cheap way of making money off someone else's work/videos. I can somehow understand his frustration since someone sitting on chair making money out of his work and his video, he spent the time and money recording, editing, building and explaining his process you just hit the PLAY button. Also he sounds Canadian so it would be harder and more expensive for him to follow up with US Federal Court law suits. My suggestion is to show your viewers how YOU would do it and refer the viewers to that video to see how not to do it. But just sitting there talking about this individuals entire video/work seems lazy and cheap; but that's how I feel about all "reaction videos". I like that you were very respectful and knowledgeable, I would just suggest you show us how you would do it right and refer to his videos instead of showing us his entire video and just talk. Wish you and Renovision's the best.

[SAliAlmajed]

I don't understand why they wanted you to take this video down. I like their video, it has many good tips that you pointed out and I like your comments that help recognize and avoid the mistakes they made. I think they should thank you for reviewing their video, it's good free advertisement. Thank you for your reviews.

[barringtonsmith]

All credit to you Joe, for not letting others just walk over you without a fight back, most people wouldn't even bother, keep going people are being edified

[robertpanetta]

I really don’t know what the trouble is with this reaction video. Joe actually gives Jeff about 80% good
comments about his work and in the end says It is one good way of doing it ., .As a homeowner spending thousands on a fence I want to know everything I can . Joe’s only concern was the camo nailing system. Mine too. Nobody
Likes to have their work reviewed so I understand Jeff’s position. Here is my opinion. Joe reviews one
video of Jeff’s hundreds of videos and it is mostly positive and Jeff almost takes him to Court. This is what the world is coming too. I would of liked to see the two men getting together over a beer and discussing their own ideas and laughing at the end .

[beckjumper]

You handled that situation great. Very knowledgeable guy.

[dawn]

I'm a subscriber to RenoVision. I like their content. I'm new to your videos but I cant understand what RenoVision would have against you making a review video on something they did. Your opinion was fair, unbiased and majority of it was positive. Yes you questioned the longevity of using this hidden screw technique for fencing but it was totally fair to question to ask. After all, as I understand, fencing is your profession.

[TriggeringLight]

I appreciate the way reaction videos with positive intent help consumers like me get multiple perspectives. I like Renovision and Jeff. I've learned a lot from him. Your video was a good one and promoted his channel if anything. Ridiculous to ask you to take out down.

[rogerbettencourt]

Joe, thanks for always trying to stay positive and maintain that “higher ground” standard we have come to expect from The Fence Expert, without putting yourself above anyone. Great job.