Why KANG is Actually HE WHO REMAINS From LOKI

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania introduced us to Kang the Conqueror...unless we've already met him before? IN this video we breakdown why He Who remains from Loki could, in fact, be THE Kang the Conqueror.

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[gregorynelson]

HWR is more syllables than He Who Remains.

[jaytpharaoh]

Kang said in Antman after Janet asked who Kang was “ Kang is who I have to be” and the fact he was trying bargain is when I realized we was watching the younger version who hadn’t won the war yet. I like how you put out how he finds alioth

[davidd.]

My theory was always that He Who Rains spelled out everything to us, he is a reliable narrator. That he has in fact lived a million lifetimes bc of the endless loop, some of those lifetimes he was Kang & he tried to go abt the multiverse a certain way but he always failed. The only way that was successful was for him to choose a diff path that lead him to become He Who Remains, which would also correlate with Endgame & how there was only 1 possible path out of millions.

[odyssey]

MCU usually follows one version of a Super Hero or Villain. Following that idea, I agree that Kang is He Who Remains. We are following this one Kang's journey.

[JM_ClipGang]

When Kang said that he'll burn them out of time? It's exactly what HWR did. He pruned their timelines. Kang escaped by accident when he was sucked into his machine. Only to reappear as Timely. Timely began rebuilding his time machine, hence in the end? Becoming HWR, all over again.

[xoxojadieeet]

I really hope they return this Kang as the big bad. I don't think I'll be as invested if they just introduce a different Kang

[kakuite]

my thought process is that Kang is in the same probability storm Scott and Hope were in. My theory is he'll accumulate all the knowledge of his potential variants thus making him know literally every outcome of his every move hence he can become He Who Remains

[jayw]

Agree! I’ve commented that Kang/HWR has little regret (Ravonna related perhaps) and Kang from Quantumania is HWR. Scars? He would have access to so much medical technology that a simple surgery could hide or remove the scars. Kang we just met was thrown back in time and he’s posing as Victor. Lastly, I’ve theorized that when HWR said “just crossed the threshold”, that was exact moment when Kang got sucked into the engine and thrown back in time.

[ronthorn]

Screen crush literally killing it again and again! Best mcu theory channel hands down!

[theclaybeartravels]

He even called himself a conqueror in Loki. So he must have been the Conqueror that the other Kang's named the Conqueror.

[riclol]

You guys crushed it again with extremely valid points! If I may add on, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the song used in the teaser trailer for Quantumania is “Goodbye Yellow Brick Road.” There’s a line in it that always stuck out to me, and it’s “oh, I’ve finally decided where my future lies, beyond the yellow brick road.” And with the new theory Ryan gave us saying that Kang is destined to make the decisions to become He Who Remains, I think this song is a new clew to indicate that. Before the Loki Finale, We always speculated that the one at the end of time would be a king Loki or a intimidating figure; but then it was revealed to be a bit so scary version of Kang, even HWR said it himself, “not what you were expecting?” Goodbye yellow brick road is the clew that tells us that Kang’s Future lies beyond the Timeline. Loki is a lot Like the wizard of oz too, dorthy and her friends (Loki and Sylvie and Mobius in this case) travel a journey to a castle to eventually meet the one in charge who was a not so intimidating figure in this case, Loki and Sylvie traveling to the end of time to He Who Remain’s Castle to meet him and be underwhelmed. So I think that you guys are spit on with this theory and I do think they are the same person! Sorry for the paragraph lol first time evey writing one on a YT vid

[mikeameluxen]

I love this theory! It’s something I was speculating on as well. The connections you pointed out make a lot of sense. Plus, from an audiences point of view, keeping Kang consistent will create a bigger bad guy to deal with. Yes, I’m sure the other Kangs are no picnic, but if we could semi focus on one, it could build him up to feel like a bigger threat.

[oponamikwe]

I think the name says it all. He will always remain no matter what variations happen . Hence even though Sylvia killed him he said: See you soon because he will always return . He's a mortal who is truly immortal because time moves in a circle . He is not the strongest and dies a lot but he will always return because he is the who remains. The most badass mortal in comics ever. No matter how many times avengers killed him, he will return . I love this.

[RamReyez]

I believe he is. That is why he told Sylvie, “I’ll be seeing you.”

[MarcRock]

It would be dope if the oncoming war KANG talked about plays out in KANG Dynasty only to come full circle where we see Loki and Sophie confront KANG just like in Season1.

[sabatasmia]

Exactly. The council wasn't talking about Scott and Hope killing the exiled one. They were talking about Loki and Sylvie.

[bertramzeek]

I like the thought of Quantumania's Kang & He Who Remains being the same person at different points in their life. Him being the version that was in the teaser for season 2 of Loki, not so much. I also think after Kang lost against Scott & Hope, he should maybe end up in confrontation with another MCU character before Kang Dynasty which helps develop his character closer to He Who Remains & even has him ally with the Avengers in Kang Dynasty. From there, they could take him two directions: 1) Have him flip on the Avengers at the end of Kang Dynasty after beating all the other Kangs which leads into Secret Wars, & is the start of his plan to become He Who Remains. That would set the Avengers up with the opportunity to stop him in Secret Wars & let all the other multiverses survive rather than repeat the cycle. 2) He sets up becoming He Who Remains in Secret Wars to loop the timeline back to the MCU we know successfully. 1 would be the better story to me, especially if they want to open the multiverses up for different actors in repeating characters. Trying to set up He Who Remains would also be a good way to split the Avengers between maximum life v. maximum order, which would pose Spider-Man & Dr. Strange's argument in No Way Home, to all the Avengers, putting them with or against Kang.

[alexvela]

I actually thought about it a week ago, that the pimp particles at the end sent Kang the conqueror to a sub atomic universe in the quantum universe and that is where the TVA is located. So Kang the Conqueror just got sent to the TVA.

[wjmoore]

You nailed it! That's exactly what I've been thinking after seeing Quantumania and then rewatching Loki. I think HWR is the Kang from Quantumania...he just has a lot of character progression to go through between now and then.

[maxborn]

The Conqueror we saw in Ant Man will be the "main" villain, I think. The rest of Kang's will be trying to contain him, and he will keep popping up in all timelines and multiverses. He will live millions of years, millions of different lives, to come back reaching the status of HWR, and finally realising his only meaning to life is to keep this cycle going.